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FW- "There are no surviving examples of ye olde yew bow and the tax of imported yew staves does point to foreign yew being used in very large quantities."

There are surviving long bows - even one from the Neolithic ( Handbook of British Archaeology - L and R Adkins)

Confusion is probably arising from the term "English Yew" - there is no such thing.

Leaving aside the Irish Yew which is a female form of the common yew, but with a more erect growth described as "bland and fastigate".. Far too young to be used for any kind of longbow except modern repros.

There are 8 species of yew in the Taxus genus. They occur in Europe, Asia minor, east Asia and North America. On the basis of probability rather than proof, we can discount the American yew from Agincourt and also the far eastern ones from east Asia - China, Himalaya, Japan.

That leaves good old Taxus baccata - the common yew. This is native to Great Britain and Europe and also from North Africa to Iran. Granted, some yew staves were imported from Europe, but the source is still the same type of yew - knots, warps and all. The tax could have been introduced to discourage cheap foreign imports and there may well not have been enough suitable trees in Britain to provide sufficient wood. Remember that archery became compulsory at one time. A statute of Edward I in 1307 forbad the felling of trees in graveyards. "Ne rector arbores in cemeterio prosternat."

So with a big demand for yew bows, wholesale harvesting of suitable wild yew and a prohibition on cutting churchyard yews - what to do? Import from Europe - but its still the same sort of yew.

Again, 'not an expert on yew trees but I believe them to be one of the slowest growing species.

I bought one for a pub in Worcester about 8 years ago(as a replacement for an ancient one that a contractor had killed) it was 25 years old and was only about 4-5ft tall, I remember thinking that as far as pounds per foot went there must be better value trees. If my memory is correct I think it cost about £500.

FTC

>> There are surviving long bows - even one from the Neolithic ( Handbook of British Archaeology - L and R Adkins)

None of which are yew

>> Confusion is probably arising from the term "English Yew" - there is no such thing.
Granted, but it's easier to say 'British yew' to indicate the form commonly encountered in GB. Different species dominate Europe and Ireland for instance and I can't be arsed to use the Latin name for each one each time.

>> Leaving aside the Irish Yew which is a female form of the common yew, but with a more erect growth described
>> as "bland and fastigate".. Far too young to be used for any kind of longbow except modern repros.

I never said the 'Irish Yew' was used for bows - I just mentioned the difference between the form here and that usually found in GB. The majority of yew staves were imported from Germany, I believe. Oldest yew in Ireland is said to be around 800 years old and was presumably nurtured by the Norman monks.

However, it's very hard to use trees as any form of evidence in Ireland. This is because during the Potato Famine something like 98% of trees and hedge rows in Ireland were cut down. The bulk of the ones that survived were in the Demesnes (grounds of stately homes), where they used to employ people just to protect the trees in their arboretums (sp?), kinda like tree wardens instead of game wardens.

The amount of trees you had was a bit of a status symbol amongst the aristos in the 1850s.

Not quite the same sort of yew. The best longbows would have been made of wood with grain that was straight, close and free of knots. Churchyard yews tend to be rather twisted and knotty, ideal for very attractive furniture but not for longbows. In the middle ages the best staves came from Spain and I think the Mary Rose bows were all extremely good quality yew, Henry VIII was a keen archer and wanted the best artillery for his troops (artillery from artil roi - king's archer) At one time there was a tax on imports from Spain in the form of specified numbers of yew staves, so that an English army could be readily equipped and the French readily wopped!

Nowadays, the best yew comes from Oregon. I am the proud possessor of a longbow made from Oregon yew by Roy King about 20 years ago. A very fine bowyer, he was also involved in the research into the bows excavated from the wreck and, I believe, made a number of the replicas on display in the Mary Rose Museum.