Nothing Paul, since I haven't been reading most of it. Evergreen Dazed was making a valid point which seems to have been interpreted as trying to disrupt a very long conversation about a subject which will always only be theory - from what I have read it is unprovable. Roy has written a small book, publicised here, no doubt sent free copies to his supporters and encouraged as many people as possible to buy a copy. As you are a great exponent of free expression I have a right to say I'm getting a bit fed with reading about it - I come to this forum, as I have been doing for quite some time, to read about a subject I too feel passionate about but perhaps but I'm a fairly imprecise person who is happy to enjoy the monuments I visit as they stand - vandalism and litter not withstanding. Hope that answers your question adequately and its not too 'shit'.