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bladup Sep 26, 2012 19:16:18
Replying to tiompan

tiompan wrote:
bladup wrote:
tiompan wrote:
bladup wrote:
How come nobody's even put this site on here? go on someone please do it! [the portal has it, but no photos], i have visited and have photos, it's just that i can't get to them yet [not since moving] and wouldn't know how to work a scanner anyway, it's a great stone circle [ with cairn ] and the stones are pointy and tall unlike the other circles around, eg Glenquicken, Torhousekie and Claughreid, it's more like the stones of cauldside burn, but bigger and better, if i remember right there's just over half the circle left, it's a lost treasure and just wondered if any TMA'ers lived in those parts, as it's a great place with everything else around anyway, that it's well worth a visit by anybody around that way, it's in books and is at NX539534 and seemed to me to be connected to Newton farm burial chamber nearer to the sea.
Probably of this assessment "As they now stand, the stones of the setting do not form any sensible pattern, and it is not certain that they are all in situ: two of the stones in the N row could have been cleared from the field. The stone setting is unlikely to be the remains of a stone circle, and there is hardly enough evidence to warrant the suggestion that the cairn is chambered: the remains may simply be of two converging field dykes, almost entirely robbed out. "
No i've been and it's a lot better than the description makes it sound, when i went i wasn't expecting much because of this description, but the standing stones are in a circle and it made me think the person who wrote the above description hadn't even been to the place, as what it says bares no relation to the treasure that's there, the only problem with the site is that the farmer has used the cairn for his field clearance, the standing stones are tall and are in a circle and it takes a good photo [ from a certain angle ] as my photos of the place are good [ the sun was setting ] but i can't get to them and the scanner is beyond me.
I'm pretty sure that whoever wrote the assessment had visited and knew what they were talking about . Earlier reports also show misgivings .
http://canmore.rcahms.gov.uk/en/site/63759/details/high+auchenlarie/
No, no, no the description is NOT whats on site, it made me think that they had rang the farmer up [ in the past ] and asked him to describe what he has on his land, and because he didn't want visiters to it he told them a load of rubbish to keep people away, one bad description leads to another bad description [ you know that ], I HAVE BEEN and the description IS WRONG, please don't say that i was at the wrong place as you can't miss it, and you can clearly see the site and stones on google earth, it looks to me that someone lazy couldn't [ years ago ] be bothered to even walk up the hill and even look for themselves, it has 5 stones in an arc of a circle and another stone falls just outside the circle, maybe misplaced, an outlier or the remains of a concentric circle, a cairn lays on the perimeter of the circle, the place is a lost treasure and thanks for reminding me why it's a lost treasure, it's because the description of this great site makes it sound nothing and therefore not worth visiting, It sure is worth visiting though, a lost stone circle no less, i visited it years ago now and the place has stayed in my head just as much as the show sites around that area, it's a great site and well worth a visit for anyone that's around the area!

T tiompan
tiompan Sep 26, 2012 19:32:13
Replying to bladup

bladup wrote:
tiompan wrote:
bladup wrote:
tiompan wrote:
bladup wrote:
How come nobody's even put this site on here? go on someone please do it! [the portal has it, but no photos], i have visited and have photos, it's just that i can't get to them yet [not since moving] and wouldn't know how to work a scanner anyway, it's a great stone circle [ with cairn ] and the stones are pointy and tall unlike the other circles around, eg Glenquicken, Torhousekie and Claughreid, it's more like the stones of cauldside burn, but bigger and better, if i remember right there's just over half the circle left, it's a lost treasure and just wondered if any TMA'ers lived in those parts, as it's a great place with everything else around anyway, that it's well worth a visit by anybody around that way, it's in books and is at NX539534 and seemed to me to be connected to Newton farm burial chamber nearer to the sea.
Probably of this assessment "As they now stand, the stones of the setting do not form any sensible pattern, and it is not certain that they are all in situ: two of the stones in the N row could have been cleared from the field. The stone setting is unlikely to be the remains of a stone circle, and there is hardly enough evidence to warrant the suggestion that the cairn is chambered: the remains may simply be of two converging field dykes, almost entirely robbed out. "
No i've been and it's a lot better than the description makes it sound, when i went i wasn't expecting much because of this description, but the standing stones are in a circle and it made me think the person who wrote the above description hadn't even been to the place, as what it says bares no relation to the treasure that's there, the only problem with the site is that the farmer has used the cairn for his field clearance, the standing stones are tall and are in a circle and it takes a good photo [ from a certain angle ] as my photos of the place are good [ the sun was setting ] but i can't get to them and the scanner is beyond me.
I'm pretty sure that whoever wrote the assessment had visited and knew what they were talking about . Earlier reports also show misgivings .
http://canmore.rcahms.gov.uk/en/site/63759/details/high+auchenlarie/
No, no, no the description is NOT whats on site, it made me think that they had rang the farmer up [ in the past ] and asked him to describe what he has on his land, and because he didn't want visiters to it he told them a load of rubbish to keep people away, one bad description leads to another bad description [ you know that ], I HAVE BEEN and the description IS WRONG, please don't say that i was at the wrong place as you can't miss it, it looks to me that someone lazy couldn't [ years ago ] be bothered to even walk up the hill and even look for themselves, it has 4 or 5 stones in an arc of a circle [i say 4 or 5 because if i remember rightly one stone falls just outside the circle] and is a lost treasure and thanks for reminding me why it's a lost treasure, it's because the description of this great site makes it sound nothing and therefore not worth visiting, It sure is worth visiting though, a lost stone circle no less, i visited it years ago now and the place has stayed in my head just as much as the show sites around that area, it's a great site and well worth a visit for anyone that's around the area!
Three different assessments either side of your visit don't agree with yours .

H Howburn Digger
Howburn Digger Sep 27, 2012 19:16:05
Replying to bladup

bladup wrote:
tiompan wrote:
I'm pretty sure that whoever wrote the assessment had visited and knew what they were talking about . Earlier reports also show misgivings .
http://canmore.rcahms.gov.uk/en/site/63759/details/high+auchenlarie/
No, no, no the description is NOT whats on site, it made me think that they had rang the farmer up [ in the past ] and asked him to describe what he has on his land, and because he didn't want visiters to it he told them a load of rubbish to keep people away, one bad description leads to another bad description [ you know that ], I HAVE BEEN and the description IS WRONG, please don't say that i was at the wrong place as you can't miss it, and you can clearly see the site and stones on google earth, it looks to me that someone lazy couldn't [ years ago ] be bothered to even walk up the hill and even look for themselves, it has 5 stones in an arc of a circle and another stone falls just outside the circle, maybe misplaced, an outlier or the remains of a concentric circle, a cairn lays on the perimeter of the circle, the place is a lost treasure and thanks for reminding me why it's a lost treasure, it's because the description of this great site makes it sound nothing and therefore not worth visiting, It sure is worth visiting though, a lost stone circle no less, i visited it years ago now and the place has stayed in my head just as much as the show sites around that area, it's a great site and well worth a visit for anyone that's around the area!
It is a site that is well worth a visit. It is nearly five hundred feet up in fairly elevated position above Wigtown Bay and out across the Solway where you can see the Isle of Man on a clear morning. I have often legged it up to these elevated vantage points early on summer mornings. Cairnholy, Carsluith, Kirkmabreck and Cambret all have an added value due to the incredible elevation and outlook. I have sat on totally natural outcrops along this elevation on these hillsides and looked at ther view and it still feels a bit "Wow!" even though there is no prehistory in the immediate proximity.

I know the HS and D&G archaeologists involved in the reporting of the last two reports on this site and in the excavation of Trusty's Hill hillfort during the summer of 2012. They don't phone up farmers to do site reports or excavations. That is simply nonsense. That is just something in your own mind and not in the real world.

The hillsides and fields (some fairly recently extended and reclaimed from peaty upland moor) are covered in large boulders. On Google Views you can see the lines of old field walls, banks and hedge lines which still exist in the middle of (now) much larger fields. The site at High Auchenlarie sits in such a landscape. If anything the partial stone arcs on either side resemble the (incomplete) top of a curvy triangle.

This might help...

http://tinypic.com/r/1554ai0/6


But I reckon it mibbe wont.

This is another nearby stone setting thing. Complete stone triangle anyone?

http://tinypic.com/r/10mnd6g/6

There is a much better preserved cairn further up the hill here.

http://goo.gl/maps/tLLR3

The views from there are stunning, I recommend an evening visit from Cambret Moor over Cairnharrow and Barholm Hill. There are a few unlisted C&R boulders en-route too.

I hope this helps.


Howburn Digger