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ocifant wrote:
Sanctuary wrote:
... EH then arranged for me to meet a Field Officer on site to discuss the situation and I thought it went very well but await their decision. I have been asked in the interim to become a 'Monitor' for them (lots of people do this) when I visit the more unvisited sites and report back directly to them on the condition of the sites which of course I'm more than happy to do.
Interesting. Sounds like the 'shortcut' was the right thing to do in these circumstances. Good luck with the project.

Also interesting is the fact that EH are happy to receive your monitor reports. We (HA) suggested such a scheme to them quite some time ago, (2005/6?) but were rebuffed on the grounds that such reports would not be up to the standard required and they did not have funds for training volunteers to provide the requisite information. Good to hear that, at least down there, they seem to have changed their tune on this one!

The 'Big Society' at work?

The officer I met up with was very understanding and sympathetic to what needed doing and was quite honest in saying they just didn't have the time or the resources to deal with it all but added that Cornwall was much more up for the re-erection of stone circles with more being done then most counties!

The 'problem' with the organised clean-ups is that they mainly take place at weekends when maybe you can't attend, so getting out there at random times like I do now I am retired and doing your bit is more viable for many people. They had no problem with me doing a bit of 'gardening' but to let them know if more needed doing. I suspect that's pretty par for the course but nice to be given the green light. I would imagine that once you are 'on-side' the chances of getting things done is much more likely within limitations.

Quite why people like you, or anyone else for that matter, can't be trusted to hand in reports up to an accepted standard is beyond me. All one can do is report on what one observes with regard to the condition of the sites, the damage seemingly being caused by stock or vandals, the vegetation growth and the access conditions to the site. Photographs compliment any report and often tell the whole story so it's not exactly rocket science is it, so I can see how disappointed you must have been.

I'm not there yet with Craddock Moor because I know that for as many people who will approve, just as many will appose (bit like TMA really LOL). If they appose then nothing gets done and the circle disappears altogether. That can never be right can it so things will change I'm sure if we all keep on pushing for it to. Let's not make a lack of funds an excuse for JP not to take a more active part in the survival of our heritage.

I seem to recall the problem wasn't with people reporting things that needed doing but in being given the ok to do things. They were concerned about how to define "limits".

I've actually found the original email convo I had about this, back in 2004! (sad, I know)

At that time I was coming at things from a slightly different angle - looking on MAGIC, many of the scheduled sites, specifically in Cornwall, had no information attached to them on Magic. I was asking what would need to be done, to be able to get even just basic information added to the Magic dataset about the sites, possibly compiled by volunteers.

This was where the 'Standards' issue arose, but also led to a later discussion about compilation of 'visitor reports', which also fell down on the resources issue. It's all well and good having reports sent in by volunteer site monitors or visitors, but if there isn't the resource to compile/collate/act on such reports the whole exercise becomes pointless.

I'm guessing that's where the CAS Monitor Watch scheme comes in, acting as a bit of a filter so only the most urgent stuff gets passed through...

It all comes down to money at the end of the day :-(