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GLADMAN wrote:
I'd forgotten this site initiated some healthy debate back in 2009 which, in retrospect, seems to have helped initiate a few ongoing righteous quests to see what actually remains of the British Isles' prehistoric upland landscape. Long may it continue, I say, ensuring these places don't revert to being out of sight out of mind.

Anyway, came across an upland site near Rhayader (Mid Wales) recently called Carreg Bica, apparently associated with a local giant of lore. Does anyone know whether Pica is a Welsh language mutation of Bica, and/or know anything about the folklore surrounding the big chap. I find all these associations a fascinating insight into the minds of past local inhabitants.... imagine an Iron Age mum telling her little son 'if you don't eat up you greens Bica's gonna come along and lob a stone on your head'.

P to B in Welsh , and almost certainly in this case is due to lenition , probably because the Bica is grammatically associated with Carreg .The difference between P and Q where P has replaced the Q would be more like Welsh Pen = Gaelic Ceann .

tiompan wrote:
P to B in Welsh , and almost certainly in this case is due to lenition , probably because the Bica is grammatically associated with Carreg .The difference between P and Q where P has replaced the Q would be more like Welsh Pen = Gaelic Ceann .
That's interesting..... also interesting how the associations are applicable to large areas. As I recall TSC went to a Carreg Bica site recently near the Rhondda, whilst, of course, there's a Carn Bica overlooking Bedd Arthur in the Preselis. Quite a spread, although all lower half of the country.

Whereas Idris associations - save a Castle Idris I came across last month in Shropshire - all appear upper Mid/North. Unless there are others?

Could they have been mythological champions, in a manner of speaking. North versus south. As everyone will know there's a very big divide nowadays?