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stonefree May 6, 2011 04:03:09
Replying to nigelswift

nigelswift wrote:
stonefree wrote:
Our plan was to share some of our findings in a forum of like-minded people.....................So, gentlemen, what say we start again with a clean slate?
When I said that would be a great idea I also suggested you list your hypotheses alongside your supporting reasons. It's a shame that hasn't yet been done as this thread is hard to follow and what is being said seems to keep evolving.

Take this capstone hole. We have heard you can observe the sun through it and see the corona and "boiling". We've also heard you can use it to observe the sun and both deduce and measure the earth's wobble. That's quite a hole!

First, is it being suggested it was deliberately constructed to do all of those things, or some of them - or none of them?

And second, regarding the claim you can observe the corona and boiling through it. Can we have more on that please because I have to confess that seems to be impossible to me, which doesn't fill me with enthusiasm about anything else that's being suggested.

Please be patient Nigel. I know we've piqued the interest of quite a few of you, but this investigation into the Quoit is a huge undertaking Dave and I have committed to (with several others also involved), and this forum alone is taking a lot of time and energy just to respond to people's questions. We're perfectly willing to share our findings, but I hope you'll all soon ease off a bit. We've both been accused of arrogance so far, but it's really just that we're exuding passion, enthusiasm and a growing confidence in what we're discovering.

We don't yet know which of these effects were intended, or whether they all were, but there are far too many for serendipity or mere coincidence. What we are seeing is effectively the 'mind' in the thing - the undeniable intentionality and skills of the builders. The only thing we are uncertain of is the extent of this, but witless savages they ain't!

I'm sure Dave will want to blow your mind with further information about the visibility of the corona etc.

It certainly IS quite a hole - neither Dave nor myself can remember ever having seen another one quite like it - have you? ;)

R Resonox
Resonox May 6, 2011 05:43:16
Replying to stonefree

stonefree wrote:
Please be patient Nigel. I know we've piqued the interest of quite a few of you, but this investigation into the Quoit is a huge undertaking Dave and I have committed to (with several others also involved), and this forum alone is taking a lot of time and energy just to respond to people's questions. We're perfectly willing to share our findings, but I hope you'll all soon ease off a bit. We've both been accused of arrogance so far, but it's really just that we're exuding passion, enthusiasm and a growing confidence in what we're discovering.
This is a worrying turn...one minute we are told you are willing to answer questions(and questions there are galore...even some tongue in cheek ones)...but this is the 2nd post with a dire warning....one is a reminder of The Eds' Terms & Conditions...and now being "asked" to cool down with accusations of " accusations of arrogance" being levelled at yourselves(I've missed those probably by looking more at other technical aspects of the posts)

stonefree wrote:
We don't yet know which of these effects were intended, or whether they all were, but there are far too many for serendipity or mere coincidence. What we are seeing is effectively the 'mind' in the thing - the undeniable intentionality and skills of the builders. The only thing we are uncertain of is the extent of this, but witless savages they ain't!
I've yet to read a post(on these boards..where anyone has suggested that "stone edifice" builders were witless savages(there is /was a whole topic debating the relative intelligences of ancient man and modern man...I think..don't quote me...(lol) that the upshot was they were every bit as intelligent as we are possibly with a more detailed knowledge of the cycles of the earth and skies as it was essential for survival on many levels.

stonefree wrote:
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ave will want to blow your mind with further information about the visibility of the corona etc.

It certainly IS quite a hole - neither Dave nor myself can remember ever having seen another one quite like it - have you? ;)[/quote]Is the hole definitely part of the original design or is it an addition to an existing construct, as offered by many posts ....this might explain other "trial markings" if someone was marking out the optimum position for the hole.
Now having said that I wonder...if the hole was designed to see the sun at a certain point on certain days of the year would it not make the rest of the construct devoid of purpose?...surely a "chimney/tower" design(given that we agree the builders didn't lack intelligence) would be more effective(sorry if this has been asked already)? I can't get my head around a unique hole for solar observations...the idea would surely have been replicated all over at best or a few times at least...eg in the hundreds of similar dolmens all over the world(Brittany has more than a fair few)..sorry if this appears rambling...just trying to fit salient points in without getting (too) sidetracked.

N nigelswift
nigelswift May 6, 2011 05:59:22
Replying to stonefree

"We don't yet know which of these effects were intended, or whether they all were, but there are far too many for serendipity or mere coincidence."

On the contrary, I was musing to myself there are far too many for credibility!
Arguing that something exhibits "intentionality" is one thing, proposing it had LOTS of functions rather undermines the assertion, like saying a pencil was deliberately made both to write with and to hold up to track the movement of the sun. It could have been but it's not convincing. If one goes further and says it was also deliberately made to observe the corona AS WELL then it's less than unconvincing.