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nigelswift wrote:
And I'll stand my ground too. I certainly didn't quote him out of context, quite the reverse:
"I'm not getting into another game of semantic one upmanship, but I will say that yet again, the proof or not is down to personal experience" was a standalone declaration which he knew was bound to produce opposition as we've had an enormously long thread in which almost everyone disagreed with it. So I disagreed with him, bad me, and he swore and flounced, the twerp. Why are you implying that was OK as he was "provoked"? No he wasn't. Where?
To keep it brief, I stand by my opinion that Astral Cat was provoked - if anyone cares to check, which I doubt, he clearly tried not to rise to your attempt to get a reaction until finally he did react - and went. There seems to be a pattern here.

nigelswift wrote:
As for witchcraft being an appropriate subject here, I can't think why you even mentioned it because I have said nothing to imply I think otherwise have I?
This part of my post was addressed to "thesweetcheat" - which he answered.

nigelswift wrote:
I really don't care if he's God's gift to etiquette elsewhere, IMO he's clearly demonstrated he needs to grow up a bit, simple as that, and you implying he did nothing wrong won't aid that process.
Well Nigel, you could have done the grown up thing too, and just left him alone - as others with notable debating skills have done.
This by the way, this is my last word on this thread, which like so many others has become a joke.
All the best - enjoy those tomatoes.

tjj wrote:
Well Nigel, you could have done the grown up thing too, and just left him alone - as others with notable debating skills have done.
This by the way, this is my last word on this thread, which like so many others has become a joke.
All the best - enjoy those tomatoes.
I'm sure you'll know that I'm hardly an unthinking cheerleader for Nigel, but this really is unfair and unreasonable. Astral started the whole thing off by referencing an earlier argument from another thread and repeating a contentious point of view unnecessarily (think about this the next time you mention the solstice at Stonehenge, Nige ;p). I certainly haven't seen Nigel provoke him, but if he had, I don't see how that would have been an excuse for telling him to "fuck off".

"To keep it brief, I stand by my opinion that Astral Cat was provoked"

Well, as everyone has tried to explain to AC, opinion is not truth - especially without evidence. I can't help thinking if you had a shred of evidence for the above opinion you'd have responded to my simple question "where" by pointing out, well, where. You are still free to of course, as is anyone.

As for "There seems to be a pattern here" that seems to be a further completely unsubstantiated accusation built on a first completely unsubstantiated accusation. I won't hold my breath for evidence to back up the second accusation but it does rather neatly illustrate why opinion in the absence of evidence is of limited value on a forum. Or is that too pedantic, semantic or analytical to be valid? And now I'm outahere for a while to jubilate over my tomatoes.