Is it natural for humans to make war ​…

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Robot Emperor R
Robot Emperor Jul 25, 2013 21:41:16
Replying to woosh

woosh wrote:
The entire human story has almost without exception been one of constant waring. the world system today promotes war actively which is huge buisness, very controlling which requires for us to be endlessly addicted to conflict. with all our individual capacities and intelligence we should by now have truely evolved, but have not done so in this regard since the dawn of man.
Caution in all things, especially approaching academic papers. Take anything attributed to anthropologists with a massive pinch of salt. Something very fishy about this research and the way it is reported.

As far as human evolution is concerned... Evolution is about survival not enlightenment. Intelligence may well be an evolutionary dead end which nature is now abandoning.

Christopher Hitchens:
“Evolution has meant that our prefrontal lobes are too small, our adrenal glands are too big, and our reproductive organs apparently designed by committee; a recipe which, alone or in combination, is very certain to lead to some unhappiness and disorder.”

Quite like this bit of shit stirring as well:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/12/21/opposable_thumbs_evolved_for_fighting/

W woolybaque
woolybaque Jul 27, 2013 10:24:18
Replying to Robot Emperor

As far as human evolution is concerned... Evolution is about survival not enlightenment. Intelligence may well be an evolutionary dead end which nature is now abandoning.

If there were any signs of human intelligence having evolved, then you'd have a point. Humans evolved to what we understand as human when we understood and acknowleged the 3 great truths;

1. We are of the Earth; so we are 'nature' altho' we are now 'on' it, (not 'above' it, a phrase of Julian's I don't care for) rather than where we were, 'in' it, like most life on earth.
2. We live and then die
3. The more we learn, the less we know.

The human story since has been one long attempt to deny one or the other or all of them, usually by confusing truth with reality. Anyone of us can create any reality, indeed, we all make our own to some extent, but it's not truth. I agree comletely with your distrust of academic papers. I've never read one that begins with any understanding of what we are.