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thesweetcheat wrote:
It must make a difference what camera you use, or no-one would ever buy a DSLR ever again!
I just meant in terms of producing good shots. It's a hackneyed old saying but I believe it's true.
Some buy fancy pants cameras in the belief that they will get 'better' photos from them. They might get more megapixels and a bigger sensor, but the money is usually about the bells and whistles.
A professional may buy a more expensive DSLR as it gives them greater flexibility, not because they produce a better image than one that costs £1000 less.

When it comes to the lens, you buy what you need. If you are shooting landscapes or portraits or gig photos, whatever. You buy accordingly. Unless you are very fussy, or a professional who does require top notch quality, you don't need to buy top end.

I consider light and composition to be the most important aspects in photography. Most of the photos I have seen and love have come from bog standard compacts.

The trouble is, I've found, when you start looking into buying a new camera it's easy to get wrapped up in all the details of what this camera has or hasn't got on it etc and you can begin to miss the point. I had no need to buy my D90, for example, I wish I never had.
Anybody who says they need an expensive DSLR in order to take effective, interesting or 'pleasing' shots isn't a good photographer in my opinion.

Evergreen Dazed wrote:
Anybody who says they need an expensive DSLR in order to take effective, interesting or 'pleasing' shots isn't a good photographer in my opinion.
That's a very simplistic statement. The photographer is certainly the most important piece of equipment, and there's nothing that can replace an eye for a good composition, and I've certainly seen plenty of examples of idiots with too much money taking dreadful pictures with expensive cameras.

And yet, expensive DSLRs exist for a reason. There are plenty of scenarios where you "need" an expensive DSLR to capture a particular shot. I can think of many stone circles that I couldn't have captured in their entirety without being able to swap out to a wide-angle lens. I also wouldn't have been able to take interior pictures of burial chambers in low light without the high-ISO performance of my current camera. I wouldn't have been able to take illuminated shots of standing stones without the use of wireless flash guns. I wouldn't have been able to take high-contrast shots without the ability to mount an ND grad filter. And the quality of the images is proportionate to the quality of the lenses you mount.

A cheap camera the the hands of a good photographer can be used to produce excellent images. An expensive camera in the hands of an idiot will be lucky to produce decent holiday snaps. Cheap cameras in ideal shooting conditions where the image will never be blown up beyond A4 will produce images of comparable quality to DSLRs with cheap glass, but as soon as you push that envelope, DSLRs win hands down on quality and in producing images in shooting conditions where no compact camera could capture a shot.

Camera snobbery annoys me, but inverse-snobbery isn't the solution.

Anybody who says they need an expensive DSLR in order to take effective, interesting or 'pleasing' shots isn't a good photographer in my opinion.
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Yes, you're absolutely right. But it depends on what you're going to do with it. You can take remarkably good photographs on cheap cameras, but you probably won't be able to blow them up very big (if indeed you wanted to). I'm lucky in that I do have an 'expensive DSLR' and lenses, but that's because it's part of my day job and I sometimes have to enlarge images to up to 1m wide for exhibitions, etc.

One thing that might be helpful is shooting in RAW format which is like a digital negative that you use to produce jpegs or tiffs. I've noticed that a lot of compacts now incorporate this and there's usually software for RAW processing supplied by camera manufacturers if you don't already possess Photoshop, Lightroom, etc. This enables you to tweak images on your computer and bring out detail in shadows, enhance skies, etc. (If anyone wants further advice do please get in touch).

Lastly, you can go to the other extreme with cheap cameras. Last year I built a 10"x8" pinhole camera to do some interiors which had mixed results. That probably cost less than a tenner to build and obviously requires no lens, so the only other financial input is black and white photo paper and chemicals, (not extortionate). Apart from the fact that it's cumbersome, the only drawback is that you can only take one shot if you're outdoors in the middle of nowhere and have no way of loading a new paper negative, (but I'm working on it!).