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tiompan May 17, 2013 22:42:40
Replying to The Eternal

The Eternal wrote:
Is there any clear evidence of glacial flow from the Preseli area to the Stonehenge area, or at least to the Avebury area, where the sarsens came from?

In other words, were the bluestones selected, like the sarsens, because the lay within a reasonable area to be drawn from? Why were the bluestones all deposited in one small area, with no other examples to be found today?

If not, then it's hard to believe any other theory than the Preseli one. There are prehistoric bluestone quarries there, and semi-dressed stones have been found there of the same shape and size as those found at Stonehenge. If a bluestone circle existed in the Preseli area, then it could have been robbed and taken to Stonehenge, but it would still mean the architects took it all that way.

Cheers,
TE.

Glaciation extended to within 15 miles to the west of Stonehenge , at best .
Where are the "semi dressed " stones and quarries in the Preseli area ?

H harestonesdown
harestonesdown May 18, 2013 16:35:37
Replying to tiompan

tiompan wrote:
The Eternal wrote:
Is there any clear evidence of glacial flow from the Preseli area to the Stonehenge area, or at least to the Avebury area, where the sarsens came from?

In other words, were the bluestones selected, like the sarsens, because the lay within a reasonable area to be drawn from? Why were the bluestones all deposited in one small area, with no other examples to be found today?

If not, then it's hard to believe any other theory than the Preseli one. There are prehistoric bluestone quarries there, and semi-dressed stones have been found there of the same shape and size as those found at Stonehenge. If a bluestone circle existed in the Preseli area, then it could have been robbed and taken to Stonehenge, but it would still mean the architects took it all that way.

Cheers,
TE.

Glaciation extended to within 15 miles to the west of Stonehenge , at best .
Where are the "semi dressed " stones and quarries in the Preseli area ?
Thought i'd seen that mentioned too, was it on the portal ?
Maybe just a dream. :)

T The Eternal
The Eternal May 18, 2013 23:48:49
Replying to tiompan

tiompan wrote:
Glaciation extended to within 15 miles to the west of Stonehenge , at best .
Where are the "semi dressed " stones and quarries in the Preseli area ?
Hi tiompan,

I can't remember where I saw the ready-dressed stone by the Preseli quarry, but it was in the last month probably on the internet. There were two archaeologists posing by it, with a caption stating the fact. It was recent material. If I can remember, or find the source, I will re-post and let you know. It convinced me.

As for glaciation, well, it's ok to say glaciation reached the edge of Salisbury Plain, but it also relies on the flow. i.e. the flow towards the site of Stonehenge and its environs needs to come from the Preselis. What we need to know is whether it did. I'm no expert, but have read a bit about it, and find it hard to picture a glacier flowing from the coast to inland. In other words I can't see how glaciation could have transported bluestones nearer to Stonehenge than their origin is today, if the only natural source is from the Preselis.

It's an interesting debate.

All the best,
TE.