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Sanctuary wrote:
tjj wrote:
Renewable energy has become a double-edged sword hasn't it. Not just wind turbines but solar panel parks too. In Wiltshire there are many planning applications for solar parks pending, some are opposed on the grounds of size and visual impact. This is the future rather than the past that we are rolling the dice for - you probably heard the interview on R4 this morning where we were told that gas prices will carry on increasing as demand on the limited world supplies grows. I don't know about everyone else but the last time I had a letter from my energy supplier telling me how much they had increased my direct debit payments I went into shock ...
We are between a rock and a hard place where energy resources are concerned.
That's 'progress' for you isn't it. Go back 5,000 years and they were sat around a log fire using up all the resources available then and wondering what would happen when all the trees were gone!
Wood burning stoves are making a big come back. The problem we have now is the planet's resources were rapidly depleted during the previous century added to which there are ever increasing people needing to use them. Nuclear waste cannot be safely disposed of. Gas, oil and coal are running out fast - that leaves 'renewable' energy and trees. I read today that human waste is now used very effectively as fertiliser for farms on the Indian sub-continent. That is a resource we seem to have in plentiful supplies.

tjj wrote:
Sanctuary wrote:
tjj wrote:
Renewable energy has become a double-edged sword hasn't it. Not just wind turbines but solar panel parks too. In Wiltshire there are many planning applications for solar parks pending, some are opposed on the grounds of size and visual impact. This is the future rather than the past that we are rolling the dice for - you probably heard the interview on R4 this morning where we were told that gas prices will carry on increasing as demand on the limited world supplies grows. I don't know about everyone else but the last time I had a letter from my energy supplier telling me how much they had increased my direct debit payments I went into shock ...
We are between a rock and a hard place where energy resources are concerned.
That's 'progress' for you isn't it. Go back 5,000 years and they were sat around a log fire using up all the resources available then and wondering what would happen when all the trees were gone!
Wood burning stoves are making a big come back. The problem we have now is the planet's resources were rapidly depleted during the previous century added to which there are ever increasing people needing to use them. Nuclear waste cannot be safely disposed of. Gas, oil and coal are running out fast - that leaves 'renewable' energy and trees. I read today that human waste is now used very effectively as fertiliser for farms on the Indian sub-continent. That is a resource we seem to have in plentiful supplies.
Ha, it's been used very effectively here in Cornwal as well June up until about 5 years ago. Farmers had the right to spread 'their own untreated waste' over their fields but started emptying septic tanks for others and using that as well. We had it in the 40 acre field next to us, along with the stench and toilet tissue blowing in the wind. So many people, us included, were feeling and being sick because of it that it was stopped.