How is Rock Art aged?

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Sanctuary S
Sanctuary Dec 16, 2012 22:44:28
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bladup wrote:
Not just water but a map of everything [inc energies] in their landscapes [the settlements with it's huts inside are some of the easiest to spot] and i know though practical experience some rock art is just marking the energy within the stone itself and the zig zags and chevrons you see in chambered cairns are also what people saw under altered states, like i always say if you look when you have had whats in their beakers [before the beer and mead] then you'd understand the rock art in a way that brings you very close to the ancesters motives, i assure you of that, once you've had what they've had [the rock art proves this] at the places they did - the great stone circles and chambered cairns it all makes a lot more sense.
Is there a particular marked rock that you know that would prove your claim Paul?

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bladup Dec 16, 2012 23:14:38
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It's more about the experiences at the stones [in normal and altered states] and the knowledge gained from visiting 1000's of rock art sites [plus all the knowledge from past lives], it's a accumulative knowledge over years and years, it's hard to teach because of that, but i've got 1000's of examples in my mind of various things at rock art sites that show something thats still in the landscape, there's a rock art site on Ilkley moor that clearly shows the line of cairns, ringcairns and the 12 Apostles stone circle on the moor, it's unmistakeable once you understand the monuments there, the ringcairns are shown by circles, the cairns by a simple cup [this is one of the problems, because simple cups can mean other things to do with water as well, a lot of the art has more than one meaning] but the 12 Apostles shows the embankment in a circle but on the inside show the stones in the circle, a lot of bronze age forts with their huts are marked on rocks in Northumberland, loads that show local watercourses and places to obtain clean water, but we've been here before and i can't believe george [and other rock art people] know so little about them even though they've probably been to the most, that means it's the hallucinogens that lets you understand a lot more, a lot of the art is what people actually see on the substances on the stones themselves, when they've done tests in labs all the patterns you see in the chambered cairns are all drawn and reported by the people on the substances, it's one of those things that if you've done it you'd know what i'm on about and if you haven't you may not [unless you've done it in a past life].

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tiompan Dec 16, 2012 23:28:10
Replying to Sanctuary

Sanctuary wrote:
bladup wrote:
Not just water but a map of everything [inc energies] in their landscapes [the settlements with it's huts inside are some of the easiest to spot] and i know though practical experience some rock art is just marking the energy within the stone itself and the zig zags and chevrons you see in chambered cairns are also what people saw under altered states, like i always say if you look when you have had whats in their beakers [before the beer and mead] then you'd understand the rock art in a way that brings you very close to the ancesters motives, i assure you of that, once you've had what they've had [the rock art proves this] at the places they did - the great stone circles and chambered cairns it all makes a lot more sense.
Is there a particular marked rock that you know that would prove your claim Paul?
Zig zags , chevrons spirals all the important motifs found in passage grave engravings are also found in childrens drawings , there is no suggestion that the children were influenced by experiences from ASC 's these motifs are the common currency of the humans everywhere .
There is no evidence for any use of anything hallucinogenic from any beakers or pottery found in Neolthic or Bronze Age Britain or Ireland .
You might imagine if the engravers had taken anthing hallucinogenic and allowed it to influnece their art it would be much more varied and not nearly so repetitive and conservative .