Re: The first site you ever visited. | Forum

Evergreen Dazed wrote:

bladup wrote:

Evergreen Dazed wrote:

bladup wrote:

Evergreen Dazed wrote:

bladup wrote:

Evergreen Dazed wrote:

bladup wrote:

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bladup wrote:

Harryshill wrote:

I know almost nothing about it.

I know the Romans attacked it and that it's huge, but it's history ai really unknown to me.

Mind you, I know next to nothing about any of the sites.

But that's the good thing about prehistory, even the people who do think they know stuff [myself included] are constantly been proved wrong about things they believe, as so much is still unknown and some stuff may remain like that forever, this makes it a great leveler for newbies as they can come to the table with ideas just as good [if not better] than so called experts.

Whilst I don't want to argue with you again bladup, and I agree with what you are saying here, ideas alone are no use without some evidence to back them up. Agreed?
Anybody could say anything about a site but without something to show there is substance to a claim, it cannot be taken seriously. Lots of things are 'possible' but that doesn't get us anywhere.

But why does it have to get us anywhere? [where's the mystery in that?] we are here and have our feelings don't we?, and feelings are very important to me, i know i see things others can't, to me that makes me a seer and to others a madman, i've always said that a lot of people will think i'm talking shit, but a least it's all from in me and nobody has to read it! just because you can't prove something doesn't make it wrong or even less valid, i mean people once thought the world was flat and other people thought they knew that all prehistoric monuments were roman or newer, and the people who said otherwise were ridiculed, and just look how right the ridiculed people ended up, i know a lot of people want proof, but not everyone, i'm as honest a person you could meet but haven't got the time, inclination or more importantly the capability to prove everything i've seen, known or experienced, should that mean i should be silenced, i clearly think not, your tone is a lot better now, so thanks for that, i calm down as quickly as i get worked up and we were both told wasn't we, i for one will forgot what happened and really try to carry on with you as usual, all the best paul.

I love the mystery of prehistory (that rhymes) I think that's what draws most in to the subject. If we knew beyond any doubt what a site like, say, greywethers was for I honestly think interest in it would wane.
But!
The thing I've found about prehistory ( I've been visiting and reading and thinking about this stuff for over 10 years, I do know a bit, honest ;) is that often the truth is mysterious and strange in itself.
It's intriguing and seems to deepen as we discover things.
Finding out the real truth of these sites also provides us living today with a new perspective. We have been so beaten down by 2000 years of Christianity, our ancient past provides us with insight into 'other' ways of living, ideas, motivations that we may have forgotten about.
It is really easy to feel alienated in the society we currently live in and some of us may long for a change of the rules. Revealing the past using evidence rather than guesswork, or feeling, gives us the chance to explore the whole nature of what it has ever meant to be a human being, to be a society.

But it's people like us [pagans] that the christians have been keeping down for 2000 years, and they themselves know that life itself [not just prehistory] is far more mysterious than any of us realise, i'm one of those souls that never believed their death wish lies and wasn't conned by them trying to tell us that it was odin hanging up there on the cross [tree], the mysteries are sure there, you don't have to take anything, i mean if i visit boscawen un in the day with lots there it wouldn't seem to mysterious to me, but on my own at night it could be a different matter, i've felt such love at these places but also like i'm been pushed away [i normally stay then though, as they are normally just seeing what your made of], at night with no moon you clearly can't see that much and are almost forced to "feel" the place, i know you know what i mean, bloody hell you should know some of the things that happen that are private and i would never speak of on here [things like that are for face to face] and i do know you know "stuff", it just seems we're both quite good at winding each other up!

When I was about 6/7 years old I went on a trip to Thorpe park. At that time they had what I now know to be a reconstruction of a saxon settlement. (I know this isn't prehistory but its something that I will admit has puzzled me).
I don't remember all that much about my childhood but I remember distinctly being impressed upon when I walked into that place. For want of a better word I 'recognised' the place and felt, (inexplicably for a young boy bought up on a council estate 40 miles from london) at home there.
This is a vivid and lasting memory. The place itself was so dour. Colourless, lifeless. I wasn't attracted to it as a young person is attracted to games, tv, bright colours, excitement etc.
I felt a genuine "something" happen to me. Why, I have no idea. I was never taught about these places, never read stories, never had any interest at all. I was interested in playing football and making my Xmas list! Why I should have been so struck by that place remains a mystery and I like that. Maybe one day I will find out why. But I'm happy with the feeling I have about it now as it hints at some sort of 'predetermination' (in a vague way).

Plus one possible interpretation of my surname is "field with pagan temple".
Honestly! Was quite chuffed when I found that out!

It's a great tale, and that something that happened is probably a mystery for good reason, because i believe that most people would be really freaked out if they knew the truth, so those sorts of mysteries are best that for most people, a mystery, but it's all about triggering your past life memories though, it doesn't have to be a place from one of your past lives just somewhere very similar to do that, my parents once took me to a local stately home for the first time when i was about 5 and i really really knew the place, to the point of freaking them out by showing them around a place i hadn't been in this life, i think they've thought i'm a bit different to them since then, as they're really really normal, so who i am inside doesn't come from them!, and please remind me of your second name [it really doesn't matter if you don't want to, you know mines Blades] as i'm sure you've said before, but i can only remember simon.

Even though sometimes I may appear not to, I do keep a very open mind. Too open perhaps which is perhaps why I sometimes feel the need to reign it in, in order to attempt to make sense of it all.

I won't give out my surname to all and sundry, but this is the reference :

It is generally accepted that ****** is a dialectually transposed locational name deriving from a place in Kent now called Elham but spelt Alham in the Domesday Book of 1086 and Aelham in Domesday Monachorum. The spelling Elham first appears in 1182 "Index to the Charters and Rolls in the British Museum". The name is believed to derive fom the Olde English pre 7th Century "ealh" meaning "a pagan temple", plus "ham", a meadow or piece of enclosed land

That's more than enough thanks, Surnames are interesting, mine is either an iron age name for a someone who makes blades, they're always just descriptive aren't they iron age names , as in what you do or where your from- say smith and springfield, my missus surname is ledbury, which is a place and also means lead hill, the second lot of blades is a viking settlement that started in yorkshire, and they were all called it, and my mums side are related to cromwell, so i'm a right old mix.

this is from the same place for yours. it is fascinating stuff :

This interesting name of English origin has two possible meanings. The first being a metonymic occupational name for a culter (a maker or dealer in knives) and is a derivation of the Olde English pre 7th Century "bloed", or Middle English "blade", cutting edge. Alternatively it is a locational name from a so called "lost" village in Northern England which is recorded in the Domesday Book of 1086, when Drago de Bewere a Danish nobleman settled there and obtained extensive land grants. The name became Burseblades (Bewere's Blades) but was shortened to Blades in the 16th Century. William de Blades is recorded as living in Yorkshire in 1301

Thanks for that, the lost place name is interesting, because years ago when i first read about that, the place was said to be quite near castle dykes henge in wensleydale, at the time i even looked at old maps of there and found things [field names and the like] called blades around the place, the thing i read did tell you where to look though, so it wasn't me that discovered it, it really does show how fast information can get lost even in this computer driven age, it's also strange how around viking settlements, the local people [in the past] used to say that the prehistoric monuments were built by the Danes, so this makes you wonder just how long they've been coming over here, i guess we'll get to know all that sort of thing in the years to come though DNA.