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GLADMAN wrote:
The Sea Cat wrote:
I think on a national level the Tories can most certainly be blamed for an ideology that gladly and deliberately promotes a principle of a twisted brute priviledge survival ethos of the economic fittest at the expense of the vulnerable and un-priviledged. It's a matter of degrees, and not comparison, in my opinion. Morally abhorrent and utterly disgraceful.
Can't agree. The Tories were out of power for a decade or so and I fail to see what improvement there was in that time? Quite the contrary, if my friends in the NHS are to be believed. My personal view of a decade of Labour government is that is was a complete and utter disgrace, cynically manipulating law to enhance control of the masses. Bevan must be turning in his grave. I really, really hope Labour can provide a viable alternative again, but there needs to be a major rethink. Class war will get us nowhere.
I have spent the last 12 years working in different areas of social welfare via charities, specifically mental health/learning disabilities/homelesness. The resources that were quite rightly directed in that direction, by Supporting People, under Labour, for all their other justifiable faults, now no longer exist due to it being farmed out to local councils with a 'fuck off and get on with it attitude'. I see it everyday. People scared, vulnerable, fucked or get fucked on the way soon. It's way beyond 'class war' on that level, it's Moral War. It's very hard to give ongoing support, as is part of my job, to someone with mental health issues, for example, who has spent two years on a housing waiting list, living in a hostel, who has just secured independent living accommodation because they genuinely cannot work, to find that everything they have so desperately being trying to achieve, a fundamental right to a decent humane lifestyle, could/will be taken away because they are deemed 'fit' to work by these cunts. I have never witnessed real fear on a daily basis until the last couple of months. Real Fear.

The Sea Cat wrote:
GLADMAN wrote:
The Sea Cat wrote:
I think on a national level the Tories can most certainly be blamed for an ideology that gladly and deliberately promotes a principle of a twisted brute priviledge survival ethos of the economic fittest at the expense of the vulnerable and un-priviledged. It's a matter of degrees, and not comparison, in my opinion. Morally abhorrent and utterly disgraceful.
Can't agree. The Tories were out of power for a decade or so and I fail to see what improvement there was in that time? Quite the contrary, if my friends in the NHS are to be believed. My personal view of a decade of Labour government is that is was a complete and utter disgrace, cynically manipulating law to enhance control of the masses. Bevan must be turning in his grave. I really, really hope Labour can provide a viable alternative again, but there needs to be a major rethink. Class war will get us nowhere.
I have spent the last 12 years working in different areas of social welfare via charities, specifically mental health/learning disabilities/homelesness. The resources that were quite rightly directed in that direction, by Supporting People, under Labour, for all their other justifiable faults, now no longer exist due to it being farmed out to local councils with a 'fuck off and get on with it attitude'. I see it everyday. People scared, vulnerable, fucked or get fucked on the way soon. It's way beyond 'class war' on that level, it's Moral War. It's very hard to give ongoing support, as is part of my job, to someone with mental health issues, for example, who has spent two years on a housing waiting list, living in a hostel, who has just secured independent living accommodation because they genuinely cannot work, to find that everything they have so desperately being trying to achieve, a fundamental right to a decent humane lifestyle, could/will be taken away because they are deemed 'fit' to work by these cunts. I have never witnessed real fear on a daily basis until the last couple of months. Real Fear.
Strong stuff said with real passion. I admire you for saying it, well done.

The Sea Cat wrote:
[ It's way beyond 'class war' on that level, it's Moral War. It's very hard to give ongoing support, as is part of my job, to someone with mental health issues, for example, who has spent two years on a housing waiting list, living in a hostel, who has just secured independent living accommodation because they genuinely cannot work, to find that everything they have so desperately being trying to achieve, a fundamental right to a decent humane lifestyle, could/will be taken away because they are deemed 'fit' to work by these cunts. I have never witnessed real fear on a daily basis until the last couple of months. Real Fear.
Real fear? I've seen this every time I've walked down Shoreditch High Street for the past year... my female companions too scared to walk on their own because there are people with no reason to live whatsoever, so nothing to lose. So who is to blame for the past decade again? Naturally Labour blames the Tories rather than themselves. I've been paying my taxes... but immigration was/is out of control, so what can I do except change government in an extremely imperfect system, try again and hope that we may get it right this time. Or give up altogether? Whilst 'Mr Blair' makes millions on the US circuit saying how 'misunderstood' he was. What is the answer?

The Sea Cat wrote:
[ It's way beyond 'class war' on that level, it's Moral War. It's very hard to give ongoing support, as is part of my job, to someone with mental health issues, for example, who has spent two years on a housing waiting list, living in a hostel, who has just secured independent living accommodation because they genuinely cannot work, to find that everything they have so desperately being trying to achieve, a fundamental right to a decent humane lifestyle, could/will be taken away because they are deemed 'fit' to work by these cunts. I have never witnessed real fear on a daily basis until the last couple of months. Real Fear.
Real fear? I've seen this every time I've walked down Shoreditch High Street for the past year... my female companions too scared to walk on their own because there are people with no reason to live whatsoever, so nothing to lose. So who is to blame for the past decade again? Naturally Labour blames the Tories rather than themselves. I've been paying my taxes... but immigration was/is out of control, so what can I do except change government in an extremely imperfect system, try again and hope that we may get it right this time. Or give up altogether? Whilst 'Mr Blair' makes millions on the US circuit saying how 'misunderstood' he was. What is the answer?