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vivid wrote:
I can barely stay in this thread as the horrors are on the verge of overwhelming me, but I just want to add my support. I am a country dweller born and bred and I've known far too many hunters and shooters. I also abhor every farmer I've ever known - people think because they are country dwelling farmers that they are the experts of the 'ways of the contryside' and its management. They're not. Mono culture. DDT, organophosphates etc. Ripping up hedgerows + destroying ecosystems. BSE. You know the list.

In my experience, farmers will exploit people, animals and the land for maximum profit and I've witnessed some horrors, believe me.

And more bad news I've just heard. A reported trophy hunter from the South East has shot Emperor of Exmoor the fantastic deer that was 9ft tall. This majestic beast cut down and just left lying dead in a field. He became a bit of a star filling the national papers and that probably caused his demise. It really saddens me to see these animals slaughtered for no more than a bit of fun. What a lot of sick people there are about who actually enjoy this 'sport'.

I'm having to shut that out. I cried for a day when they announced the death of Caesar, the old stag from the Isle of Rum, on Autumnwatch a couple of years ago and that was 'only' from natural causes.

These issues are almost unbearably close to the bone for me as I'm still traumatised from witnessing animal abuse on farms when I was young, compounded by being surrounded by cruel psychopaths who argued with me - they had no qualms about any form of animal exploitation, even inc. testing cosmetics - and sealed by watching videos such as The Animals Film (shown on Channel 4 in the early 80s and featuring hell on earth) and Pennsylvania Primates - an undercover video from a US lab which showed monkeys being used for car crash tests and the people who worked there talking to them mockingly and laughing.

To be clear, I'm as horrified about cruelty to human beings in case people think I'm speciesist.

Sorry for going on in here - I just can't understand it all.

On a more positive note, shouldn't 'the wider us' hatch a plot to buy the woodland from under their noses? If so, could we guarantee to keep the developers and hunters at bay?