Yes, I would see these kind of tents at the caravan site in Alston. Eighty nine guy ropes and not one of them set properly. I'd be taking a shortcut diagonally through the site and they'd never see me. Just get a Gelert. Designed in Wales, made in China, what could be worse than that? If it gets to galeforce they blow flat but, with a van, it doesn't really matter.