Yes, I started to think this way. I think in order to take this forward we would need to get a list of all the V-forts with their particular attributes. I think we've done this one to death for now. If I get the chance (big if) I'll pull together this thread into a report and put it on my website. I think we managed to clarify a whole host of things, but need to get specific detail in order to take it forward.

I don't suppose anyone knows an easy way of pulling a thread into a text document?