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Before this thread slips into obscurity I'd like to respond to this (that went unchallenged and shouldn't have) -

Cymap said:
"I think you counter should actually say 9,000,000+ artifacts recovered and saved from destruction."

This is an iteration of a claim made by most detectorists, to the effect that ploughing and chemicals are destroying artefacts and detectorists are rendering a public service by "rescuing them". The following should be said:

The official view is that this problem is neither widespread enough nor fast enough to justify mass, random, unstructured removal of bits of the resource. PAS, EH, CBA etc don't say they support detecting in general because it is "rescue archaeology". Only detectorists and their supporters make such a claim.

To be believable, "rescuing on behalf of the public" would require the public to see a need for it, for the public's official bodies to be convinced it was needed, for them to specify the way it was done and for the artefacts and knowledge to be delivered to the public. That's not what happens.

So no, the counter shouldn't actually say 9,000,000+ artifacts recovered and saved from destruction" it should say what it says, and we'd have been perfectly justified if we'd added the word "selfishly".

(The reason I revisited this was because just today, on a detectorists' forum near here, I notice we have someone bemoaning the lack of finds on a field and saying yes, he'll certainly follow the helpful advice of his fellow forum-user - to offer to pay for the farmer's fuel if he'll go over it with a deeper plough to bring the finds up. Nice. )


Digging for your own benefit, either for recreation or profit If and where they see such a need then they would y would no doubt be orists "rescuing" everything rate and

Nigel Swift ''

For the avoidance of doubt:

I saw Kevmar's survey on UKDN. ''
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Anyway, so you think artefacts are better off left in situ
to decay and disappear into the elements then Nigel?
That's the most selfish attitude Iv'e seen for a while.
Why should this be so?
How long do you think (with modern day chemicals,not only
applied to land via farming,but through acid rain etc)
these finite objects will physically survive?
you know full well the damage 'our',yes 'our 'anchiant stones etc are
hammered by this.
Better out the ground,recorded,conserved,and rescued for everyone,
that's my opinion.
Re my survey again,
if you and Paul did see it,
you know full well how many objects would have interested
PAS,FLO's or any Museum,
None wasn't it?
Plenty of ring pulls,and buttons (pauls favorites)
nothing to get exited about,
very much a typical detecting session.
Regards,
Kevmar.