rune there is absolutely no misreading of his post, as any one of reasonable intelligence would realise, this actual post was pointed out to me by two regular contributors to this forum while at one of there houses, and let me tell you both interpreted it as a weak attempt at intellectual domination by a rampant egomaniac (admittedly I could rise above such attempts, but then would this not give littlestone carte blanche to bully ridicule and scape goat weaker posters? as he has in the past) As for his criticism of me not offering anything to the forum, i would draw your attention to his four posts! In short he is a insidious control freak who ridicules by insinuation, sarcasm and thinly veiled intellectual heirophancy (well he trys) If he is unable or unwilling to challenge anothers ideas, posts, theorys etc up front and honestly and must resort to such insidious juvenille methods i fell it encumbent upoun me to challenge, i hope this answers your post, thanks for your time and patience. MM