Point taken, but is there a trade off? We post low res pics to websites and so they are not going to reproduce that well and so are likely to be used by cheapo outfits that won't pay much anyway. OK - so none of us want our stuff hacked off and presented badly. The trade off is that our photos get seen more widely via TMA and the Portal. As a result, we sometimes get sales because they are seen by reputable publishers who don't cheat and who do pay the going rate.