Spirit of Place

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I almost didn't comment on this for fear of being divisive but I feel strongly that I want to clarify my own position and hope I can do it without promoting anything but unity between us all. I have to say that I feel my words have been twisted, and though I'm sure that most understand that this is so I just wanted to leave no room for doubt.

"More specifically that the posting of "Spirit of Place" by Tombo was written the way it was to appeal to you specifically and other people with your perspective. "

When I write I try to imagine the reader as someone with a different, more skeptical view to my own not because I'm trying to convert the reader to my point of view, but because I'm trying to see it from more than just my own point of view. To put it simply, I try to be skeptical. Why? Because I recognise that I have a tendency to get carried away by my imagination! I'm just trying to cultivate the scholar in me, that's all. Its like Robert Graves said - "a poet who wilfully denies fact cannot achieve truth". I'm certainly not trying to shoot anyone's point of view down in flames, least of all FourWinds'. Quite the opposite, I'm trying to understand things through other peoples' eyes. When people don't agree with what I write that doesn't mean that my point of view needs defending or that the person disagreeing with me should change their point of view. It just means that people have different views - I would soon become very bored if everyone had the same view (would I become a Christian if everyone else was a heathen? like Iggy cutting his hair short 'cause everyone else was a longhair). The important thing to remember is that we all have a great deal in common - our love of ancient monuments.

I've been thinking it over and I reckon that its not so much that these issues are in themselves divisive. Its all in the way that it is put. It is one thing to discuss and share beliefs, perspectives and experiences. This can only be a good thing, leading to insight into other people's points of view and therefore understanding, without which there can be no unity. Its another thing altogether to get the soapbox oat and come over all evangelical. Its sometimes difficult to keep a hold of the reigns when talking about the things that you believe in, and enthusiasm can carry you away. I know that this has happened to me before (though I think I've managed to behave myself pretty well in this thread!). Its important to remember that refusing to tolerate another person's point of view is fundamentalism of the worst kind. I said somewhere in this thread that I'm not interested in preaching to the converted. Actually I'm not interested in preaching at all, because a preacher is someone who wants to make converts. When I write my weblog & post to these forums I'm not trying to make converts, simply to say "here's a way of looking at things that you may or may not have considered" then leave people to make up their own minds about how to look at things. Its the difference between saying "This is my point of view, what's yours?" (followed by actually listening!) and just screaming "This is my point of view and its the way, the truth and the light so you'd all better listen up and believe or be damned!". I completely understand why people wouldn't want to get involved in discussions of this sort. The "believe or be damned" mentality surely is divisive (to say nothing of the other reasons why people might not want to get involved, eg. the fact that these things are often quite a personal matter). But somehow that doesn't convince me that discussions of this sort aren't worthwhile. Surely the only cure for fundamentalism is learning to understand points of view different to your own. This simply cannot happen without discussions of this sort taking place. So ultimately I have to say that I think this has been a fascinating thread, and a very positive one.

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Every one of us thinks that their own point of view is right. That's why we each hold that view, and not another one. And that's why its so easy to take the very fact that someone holds a different view to be an insult to your own point of view. We each hold our views because we believe them to be truer than other ways of looking at things. I even dare say that some of us are closer to the truth than others - who knows? Its certain, however, that if you are closed to new ideas then you are usually about as far from the truth as you can get. And I'm also sure that its impossible to convince people of the validity of your particular view by forcing it down their throats. The preacher might shout his beliefs loudly and passionately, but if I do not share them then I'll quietly slip out of the back door and he won't even notice I've gone. And if you even want people to do you the honour of telling you their innermost beliefs then they have to feel confident that you're not just going to say "well that's a load of crap and this (insert your own viewpoint here) is clearly the truth". Why would people set themselves up for that sort of a bashing? There's no reason, and that's why some people have stayed out of this.

I think its a tragedy that so many people (I'm not just referring to this forum but to life in general) are reluctant to involve themselves in this sort of discussion. I love to hear about other people's beliefs and am always interested and excited to discover a different way of looking at things. And I firmly believe that it is only through discussion (not silence) that people can ever learn to tolerate other people's points of view. But I entirely understand that many people's feelings about their beliefs are like beautiful, delicate flowers, easily hurt by careless footsteps.

So let's all just hold hands and sing, okay?