What I'm skeptical of is rants about "capitalism does this" and "capitalism does that." Capitalism used this way is just an ideological label. I am trying to get people to see it in more scientific terms -- things that can be quantified and measured, at least in relative terms. The USA has more individual economic and personal freedom than the USSR did -- any way you measure it. That doesn't mean the USA is the archetype of "capitalism" or vice versa.
There is plenty of "socialism" in the US system -- starting of course with "social security" which is the largest single expense in the federal budget (yes, even larger than the military or debt payments.)
As I see it all *realistic* discussions about politics & economy are debates about how much X and how much Y to apply to each specific problem to produce the most benefit for the most people. I don't see any way out of the X vs. Y continuum, unless you want to get metaphysical (like instead of "individual" or "state" control you might argue for "god control" -- but that's a whole nuther can of worms.)
Basically you could say I'm a political taoist -- to me it's all about finding the proper balance. ;-)
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