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ARRGGGHHH!!!!

You're just babbling about labels without examining any of the underlying assumptions.

For starters "capitalism" is NOT a form of government at all . . . it's part of an economic typology invented by Karl Marx. It specifically describes the relationship between the state and the economy from a "class" perspective.

What is it *specifically* that bothers you anyway?

"Money"? That's been around for millenia, long before so-called "capitalism."

"War mongering?" Again, predates "capitalism" by millenia.

"America?" Not synonymous with capitalism in the first place. You're probably mostly talking about the current president and his policies.

"Unfairness?" Who ever said life was fair? Particularly, was it any more "fair" in the age of lords and peasants? If you say "feudalism and capitalism are the same thing", then back of the class for you.

Marx defined "capitalism" (a word he invented) in terms of precisely how it wasn't "feudalism."

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Posted by Dog 3000
16th September 2003ce
23:25

(morfe, Sep 16, 2003, 22:16)

Re: the 'it' in bullshit (Lawrence, Sep 16, 2003, 22:30)
Re: the 'it' in bullshit (stray, Sep 16, 2003, 22:38)
Re: the 'it' in bullshit (Dog 3000, Sep 16, 2003, 23:25)
- Re: the 'it' in bullshit (stray, Sep 17, 2003, 13:19)
  - but dont you think (duckbreath, Sep 17, 2003, 15:14)
  - Re: the 'it' in bullshit (Dog 3000, Sep 17, 2003, 18:54)
    - The U in music (morfe, Sep 17, 2003, 19:58)
      - Re: The U in music (Dog 3000, Sep 17, 2003, 20:26)
        U Know (morfe, Sep 17, 2003, 21:46)
    - Re: the 'it' in bullshit (gorseddphungus, Sep 17, 2003, 22:25)
      - Re: the 'it' in bullshit (Dog 3000, Sep 20, 2003, 04:59)
        Re: the 'it' in bullshit (gorseddphungus, Sep 20, 2003, 08:39)
        Re: the 'it' in bullshit (Dog 3000, Sep 20, 2003, 18:25)
        Re: the 'it' in bullshit (Lawrence, Sep 20, 2003, 18:49)
        Re: the 'it' in bullshit (morfe, Sep 20, 2003, 18:49)
        And an another thing (morfe, Sep 20, 2003, 18:57)
        Re: the 'it' in bullshit (Lawrence, Sep 20, 2003, 19:52)
        Re: the 'it' in bullshit (Dog 3000, Sep 20, 2003, 20:20)
        Re: the 'it' in bullshit (Lawrence, Sep 20, 2003, 21:15)
        Re: My two cents (well... pence) (Moon Cat, Sep 21, 2003, 02:37)
        Re: My three cents (well... pence) (Moon Cat, Sep 21, 2003, 02:40)
        Re: My three cents (well... pence) (Lawrence, Sep 21, 2003, 06:21)
        Re: My two cents (well... pence) (Lawrence, Sep 21, 2003, 06:20)
        Re: My two cents (well... pence) (Moon Cat, Sep 21, 2003, 02:37)
        X vs Y (morfe, Sep 20, 2003, 19:00)
        Freedom from X vs Y (morfe, Sep 20, 2003, 19:33)
        Re: Freedom from X vs Y (Dog 3000, Sep 20, 2003, 20:10)
        Re: Freedom from X vs Y (Lawrence, Sep 20, 2003, 21:20)
        Re: Freedom from X vs Y (morfe, Sep 21, 2003, 04:03)
        Re: Freedom from X vs Y (Lawrence, Sep 21, 2003, 06:24)
        Re: Freedom from X vs Y (Dog 3000, Sep 22, 2003, 17:47)
        Re: Freedom from X vs Y (Lawrence, Sep 22, 2003, 18:13)
        Re: Freedom from X vs Y (morfe, Sep 22, 2003, 18:19)
        Re: Freedom from X vs Y (Lawrence, Sep 22, 2003, 18:23)
        Re: Freedom from X vs Y (Dog 3000, Sep 22, 2003, 18:55)
        What was the question again (morfe, Sep 22, 2003, 19:04)
        Re: What was the question again (Dog 3000, Sep 22, 2003, 19:11)
        Re: What was the question again (morfe, Sep 22, 2003, 19:33)
        Re: What was the question again (Dog 3000, Sep 22, 2003, 19:50)
        Organic local Ale (morfe, Sep 22, 2003, 20:01)
        Re: What was the question again (Lawrence, Sep 22, 2003, 19:59)
        Re: What was the question again (morfe, Sep 22, 2003, 20:13)
        Re: What was the question again (Dog 3000, Sep 22, 2003, 20:22)
        Re: Freedom from X vs Y (morfe, Sep 22, 2003, 19:12)
        Re: Freedom from X vs Y (Dog 3000, Sep 22, 2003, 19:30)
        Progress (morfe, Sep 22, 2003, 19:45)
        Re: Progress (Lawrence, Sep 22, 2003, 20:03)
        Re: Progress (morfe, Sep 22, 2003, 20:15)
        Progress is the problem! (Dog 3000, Sep 22, 2003, 20:27)
        Re: Progress is the problem! (morfe, Sep 22, 2003, 20:32)
        Re: Progress is the problem! (Dog 3000, Sep 22, 2003, 20:36)
        Re: Progress is the problem! (morfe, Sep 22, 2003, 20:47)
        Re: Progress is the problem! (Dog 3000, Sep 22, 2003, 20:54)
        Re: Progress is the problem! (morfe, Sep 22, 2003, 20:59)
        God the Capitalist (morfe, Sep 22, 2003, 21:06)
        Re: God the Capitalist (Dog 3000, Sep 22, 2003, 21:32)
        Re: God the Capitalist (Lawrence, Sep 22, 2003, 21:51)
        Re: God the Capitalist (morfe, Sep 22, 2003, 21:56)
        Re: God the Capitalist (Dog 3000, Sep 22, 2003, 22:08)
        Re: God the Capitalist (morfe, Sep 22, 2003, 22:11)
        Re: God the Capitalist (Dog 3000, Sep 22, 2003, 22:14)
        Re: God the Capitalist (Lawrence, Sep 22, 2003, 22:17)
        Re: God the Capitalist (Dog 3000, Sep 22, 2003, 22:28)
        Re: God the Capitalist (Lawrence, Sep 22, 2003, 23:00)
        Re: God the Capitalist (Lawrence, Sep 22, 2003, 22:15)
        Re: Progress is the problem! (Dog 3000, Sep 22, 2003, 21:11)
        Philosophicus (morfe, Sep 22, 2003, 21:28)
        Re: Philosophicus (Dog 3000, Sep 22, 2003, 21:52)
        Re: Philosophicus (morfe, Sep 22, 2003, 22:00)
        Re: Philosophicus (Dog 3000, Sep 22, 2003, 22:13)
        Fuckitupus (morfe, Sep 23, 2003, 00:09)
        Re: Fuckitupus (Lawrence, Sep 23, 2003, 02:23)
        Re: Philosophicus (Lawrence, Sep 22, 2003, 22:05)
        Destroy ourselves (morfe, Sep 22, 2003, 22:10)
        Re: Destroy ourselves (Lawrence, Sep 22, 2003, 22:20)
        Re: Philosophicus (Lawrence, Sep 22, 2003, 21:58)
        Re: Progress (Dog 3000, Sep 22, 2003, 20:15)
        Re: Progress (morfe, Sep 22, 2003, 20:23)
        PS (morfe, Sep 22, 2003, 20:25)
        Re: PS (Dog 3000, Sep 22, 2003, 20:34)
        Re: PS (Lawrence, Sep 22, 2003, 20:44)
        Re: PS (Dog 3000, Sep 22, 2003, 20:55)
        Re: PS (Lawrence, Sep 22, 2003, 22:07)
        Re: Freedom from X vs Y (Lawrence, Sep 22, 2003, 20:01)
        Re: Freedom from X vs Y (Dog 3000, Sep 22, 2003, 20:23)
        Re: Freedom from X vs Y (morfe, Sep 22, 2003, 20:26)
        Re: Freedom from X vs Y (Dog 3000, Sep 22, 2003, 20:29)
        Re: Freedom from X vs Y (Moon Cat, Sep 22, 2003, 20:35)
        Re: Freedom from X vs Y (morfe, Sep 22, 2003, 20:37)
        Moon Kaat? (morfe, Sep 22, 2003, 20:39)
        Re: Moon Kaat? (Dog 3000, Sep 22, 2003, 20:42)
        Ruuuush (Dog 3000, Sep 22, 2003, 20:39)
        Re: Freedom from X vs Y (Lawrence, Sep 22, 2003, 20:42)
        Re: Freedom from X vs Y (Lawrence, Sep 22, 2003, 20:47)
        Re: Freedom from X vs Y (Lawrence, Sep 22, 2003, 20:38)
        Re: Freedom from X vs Y (Dog 3000, Sep 22, 2003, 20:41)
        Re: Freedom from X vs Y (Lawrence, Sep 22, 2003, 20:35)
        Anus Randicus (Dog 3000, Sep 22, 2003, 20:37)
        Re: Freedom from X vs Y (Lawrence, Sep 22, 2003, 19:56)
        Conceptual (morfe, Sep 22, 2003, 18:26)
        Re: X vs Y (Dog 3000, Sep 20, 2003, 20:17)
    - Re: the 'it' in bullshit (ron, Sep 17, 2003, 22:51)
      - Re: the 'it' in bullshit (Dog 3000, Sep 20, 2003, 04:39)
        Re: the 'it' in bullshit (Dog 3000, Sep 20, 2003, 04:41)
Re: the 'it' in bullshit (stray, Sep 17, 2003, 13:39)
Re: the 'it' in bullshit (duckbreath, Sep 17, 2003, 14:52)
- Re: the 'it' in bullshit (morfe, Sep 17, 2003, 19:20)
Re: the 'it' in bullshit (cancer boy, Sep 17, 2003, 15:52)
- Re: the 'it' in bullshit (gorseddphungus, Sep 17, 2003, 16:39)
  - Re: the 'it' in bullshit (cancer boy, Sep 17, 2003, 17:39)
    - Re: the 'it' in bullshit (morfe, Sep 17, 2003, 19:23)
      - Re: the 'it' in bullshit (cancer boy, Sep 17, 2003, 19:36)
- Re: the 'it' in bullshit (morfe, Sep 17, 2003, 19:34)
  - Re: the 'it' in bullshit (cancer boy, Sep 17, 2003, 19:37)
    - Re: the 'it' in bullshit (morfe, Sep 17, 2003, 19:44)
      - Re: the 'it' in bullshit (cancer boy, Sep 17, 2003, 20:20)
Re: the 'it' in bullshit (duckbreath, Sep 23, 2003, 17:25)
- Re: the 'it' in bullitt (Toni Torino, Sep 23, 2003, 17:27)
- Re: the 'it' in bullshit (morfe, Sep 23, 2003, 17:47)
  - Re: the 'it' in bullshit (Lawrence, Sep 23, 2003, 19:10)

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