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A slightly uninformed point here:

RSPB energy is still available for anyone in the UK who would like to buy their gas and electricity in a way that supports renewable energy production and conservation at no extra cost (that ive noticed). 0800 0288 552 is the number for more info.

There are possibly other companies offering electric from renewable sources, so please point them out to me.

Why the plug? Well it was pointed out to me that with new legislation that will force comapnies to buy a proportion of their energy from renewable sources, such schemes may not be available to the public for much longer because all the renewables will have been bought up. Therefore, if we buy it now, then the commercial sector will be forced to invest in new renewables schemes.

Does that make sense?

Have got a couple of others but they are at home. I'll pass them on next time I'm in. However, my Dad was saying yesterday that there are going to be problems with all the wind/wave generators as the govt has changed the way the distributor/generator relationship works. Generators now have to say in advance how much electricity they are going to be supplying & when and will be penalised if they don't supply - clearly this is very difficult with for example wind generators when you can't say how much you're going to generate in the future as you don't know how strong the wind is going to be. Which sounded a bit of a death knell for sustainable generators - but it might not be true.

We also had a bit of a debate about the energy costs of building the windmills - his view is that they cost more to build than they ever generate I didn't think this was the case - any info gratefully rec'd.

xx spirit

I was doing some checking into this and found my company's brochure on wind turbines if anyone's interested:

http://www.abb.com/global/abbzh/abbzh251.nsf!OpenDatabase&db=/global/abbzh/abbzh289.nsf&v=2C58E&e=us&c=4F02990CDC0A4B66C1256A250045F7D3

One thing that I did notice in it was that for instance the wind farm in Rhodes produces 12MW. Compare this to the coal-fired Drax power station in Yorkshire which produces 4000MW and there's still some way to go. However, maybe we can reduce the time for renewable methods to catch up by economizing on the energy we use.

I'd better switch this computer off then!

npower offer a green (windy lekky) option called juice.

As with all these things .. little acorns etc.