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Re: OT: Government's attitude to green energy
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jshell wrote:
thesweetcheat wrote:
moss wrote:
In all this, two things become clear, green energy is seen as a way to make profit by some but not all, but we do need different forms of energy. Look at hydro-fracturing and compare its consequences to the environment with the hassle of wind turbines on the horizon and I know which one I want. Again compared to nuclear power stations and the business of getting rid of radio-active material, the visuality and disruption of building turbines is something we perhaps have to live with, though the Stornoway project is to build 31 kilometres of service stone roads.
Wishing for a 'pure' view in Scotland is all good and fine but people want energy to heat and light their homes. The 'nimbyism' found in southern England, really its about how much your house will sell for if it becomes blighted by wind turbines, is perhaps not echoed in the wider reaches of the Scottish landscape, its more to do with aesthetics.....


Off topic, but another indicator of how much the Tories are really bothered about renewable energy:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/busi[...]ar-panels-consultation-lawsuit


You'll see much more of this from now on. Suddenly governments across Europe and America are staring to realise that the cost and effectiveness of renewables are not worth it, particularly combined with the economic crisis. There wil be a slow retreat from co2 emissions targets too as the realisation that natural variability in climate is far overwhelming man's effects - at least that's what the 'leaked' (believe that bollox if you lijke) next IPCC report will say.

Wind turbines are all about the massive subsidies and nothing else. They are innefective, unsightly and cause massive environmental & wildlife damage. Gas fired power stations will see us for the next hundred or so years...


And after 100 years then what? Oh I see, we won't be around so fuck it, who cares. Meee, little me, I care. I care because co2 emissions are accelerating the speed at which any natural climate changes are taking place; I care because I love this planet; I care because have children and now grandchildren - and although I'm unlikely to be around to see their children, I care about the sort of world they will be born into.

Every where I walk, I'm seeing solar panels on roofs - saw some on an outbuilding in Avebury village the other day - they don't interfere with anyone else personal 'space' so surely must be one of the ways forward, subsidies therefore should continue.

Just out of interest - could you say where these gas supplies for the next 100 years are coming from. In the light of the economic downturn countries in the northern hemisphere who don't have their own supplies will be held to ransom while the poor and vulnerable freeze because they can't afford to pay the bills.


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Posted by tjj
17th November 2011ce
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