O for Gods sake, it wasnt trespass (look it up) and it wasnt breaking a guardian's rules and the circumstances were entirely different to whats been discussed on this thread. If you want to say Ah that proves our attitude towards rules is justified and I'm "as bad as you" then go ahead. I think anyone that doesnt want to pretend otherwise will see there's a massive difference and will know precisely why youre trying to say there isnt.