The Modern Antiquarian. Stone Circles, Ancient Sites, Neolithic Monuments, Ancient Monuments, Prehistoric Sites, Megalithic MysteriesThe Modern Antiquarian

Ladybower Tor

Cup and Ring Marks / Rock Art

<b>Ladybower Tor</b>Posted by wiccaman9
More >
Ladybower Tor (Cup and Ring Marks / Rock Art) by wiccaman9
wiccaman9 Image Credit: wiccaman9
Posted by wiccaman9
30th January 2016ce
NB: Unless otherwise stated, this image is protected under the copyright of the original poster and may not be re-used without permission.

Comments (5)

Great , thanks Aron .That clarifies it .

It doesn't help that the markings are not too clear but I don't think your plan is similar to what is seen on the stone . If we accept the 2003 D.A.J. drawing as being close it is quite different .
Further problems are the unlikeliness of a bird's eye view as opposed to the more obvious "view from " .
Where are the precedents ? Others have claimed that some motifs in UK/Irish rock art motifs depict landscapes and sometimes represenations of the sky but they have always failed the test . If you have four or five cups or raised sections they could be argued to represent anything .
Where is the boundary i.e. the penannular ,in the landscape . ? If it represents a particular territory we might expect some obvious natural markers for that , e.g. streams , big rocks etc .
tiompan Posted by tiompan
30th January 2016ce
Hey there,

Surely we are all entitled to our opinions!?

I'm not an authority of the Bronze-Age mind, nobody could claim to be!

Where's the harm in hypothesising?

The depictions have intrigued many a researcher/antiquarian for 150+ years and undoubtedly will continue to...

I suggested the possibility of the ring could indicate a 'possible' boundary, but quite simply, it could be a carving to define the carvings within?

wiccaman9 Posted by wiccaman9
30th January 2016ce
Of course everyone is entitled to an opinion ,that's why I expressed mine .

Nothing wrong with putting forward an hypothesis and similarly nothing wrong with pointing out perceved problems with hypotheses .

Yes ,the engravings have intrigued many for a long time , the famous 120 (or is it 110 ?) list from Morris gets a small number of additions over the years ,but I don't believe any examples from the thousands of potential examples in the UK Ireland have ever been proved to be convincing maps of the local landscape or heavens .
I would suggest that the penannular does define the enclosed engravings but does not represent a territorial /natural boundary .
tiompan Posted by tiompan
30th January 2016ce
Morris's list is funny - from possible hypotheses to absolute nonsense.

The fact that most of the rock art in the UK is SO ABSTRACT cf. rest of Europe/elsewhere (which has animal motifs, potential humanoid shapes, etc) is so unusual, differing from the norm.

Territorial markers, walk routes/route markers, defining upland areas from lowlands, etc seem to be the most likely uses of the carvings...

wiccaman9 Posted by wiccaman9
30th January 2016ce

The abstraction makes it even more interesting for me .

Yes , often found on what were probably through routes .

Different explanations possible for apparently similar outcomes .
tiompan Posted by tiompan
30th January 2016ce
You must be logged in to add a comment