Hi John
John Rice wrote: "what exactly are the benefits of belonging to the EU?"
Well, as an EU citizen you have the right to live and work in any one of 28 (now 27) nations and still retain all of the same rights as you would in your home country. To me -- as someone who has lived and worked in 5 EU nations -- that's a *massive* benefit.
I may be doing you a disservice, but I suspect you actually meant "what are the benefits to me personally?"
I heard a young lady (20s?) on the radio recently saying she voted Remain because, by leaving the EU, she thought it would cost her more to use her mobile phone while roaming there. :-) Now that’s obviously a disadvantage for her (having to pay more in mobile phone charges) but hardly a good enough reason to vote Remain. As an EU citizen we do indeed, “...have the right to live and work in any one of 28 (now 27) nations and still retain all of the same rights as you would in your home country.” With that, of course, comes the right of any EU citizen to have the same rights here in the UK. We have to ask ourselves if the trade off is a good one. For you of course it obviously is, but for the majority of people in the UK? I doubt it. For UK citizens who just take vacations on the continent, perhaps have second homes there, or just visit occasionally for sports events etc, they probably hardly give the rights issue a second thought.
You know, I can remember a time (1973) before the UK joined the European Economic Community, when freedom of movement across most of Europe was a given and all that you needed was your passport. Of course we didn’t have the rights you mention but most people didn’t need them... and still don’t. We certainly didn’t need a visa and the idea put out by some that we might need a visa after Brexit is blatant scaremongering. Unlike you I haven’t worked in Europe but I did study and work abroad for some seventeen years and all I ever needed was a student or work visa. I had the same health, travel, ownership benefits abroad as here in the UK and could have voted if I had wanted to.
We don’t have to become a citizen of a political/trading block like the EU to enjoy the rights of the EU country we choose to live in (and the majority of us live in just one country). That is demonstrably so when we see the many people living and working in the UK of non-European origin. :-)
Reply | with quote | Posted by Littlestone 29th April 2017ce 10:38 |
Another Election (Captain Starlet, Apr 18, 2017, 11:31)- Re: Another Election (Jeez, Apr 18, 2017, 12:29)
- Re: Another Election (nigelswift, Apr 18, 2017, 13:31)
- Re: Another Election (Sanctuary, Apr 18, 2017, 17:00)
- Re: Another Election (Captain Starlet, Apr 18, 2017, 17:07)
- Re: Another Election (jshell, Apr 18, 2017, 18:11)
- Re: Another Election (thesweetcheat, Apr 18, 2017, 23:01)
- Re: Another Election (drewbhoy, Apr 20, 2017, 12:33)
- Re: Another Election (Jeez, Apr 18, 2017, 18:25)
- Re: Another Election (dhajjieboy, Apr 18, 2017, 23:30)
- Re: Another Election (Jeez, Apr 19, 2017, 02:50)
- Re: Another Election (Littlestone, Apr 19, 2017, 13:55)
- Re: Another Election (dhajjieboy, Apr 19, 2017, 14:25)
- Re: Another Election (thesweetcheat, Apr 19, 2017, 17:36)
- Re: Another Election (Littlestone, Apr 21, 2017, 13:19)
- Re: Another Election (dhajjieboy, Apr 21, 2017, 13:43)
- Re: Another Election (thesweetcheat, Apr 21, 2017, 18:10)
- Re: Another Election (Ethericat, Apr 26, 2017, 10:44)
- Re: Another Election (drewbhoy, Apr 30, 2017, 10:01)
- Re: Another Election (tjj, Apr 21, 2017, 09:24)
- Re: Another Election (sanshee, Apr 21, 2017, 10:16)
- Re: Another Election (Littlestone, May 02, 2017, 12:44)
- Re: Another Election (thesweetcheat, May 02, 2017, 18:06)
- Re: Another Election (Littlestone, May 02, 2017, 18:47)
- Re: Another Election (thesweetcheat, May 02, 2017, 19:16)
- Re: Another Election (Littlestone, May 02, 2017, 19:53)
- Re: Another Election (thesweetcheat, May 02, 2017, 20:25)
- Re: Another Election (jb lamptoast-morsley, May 03, 2017, 12:59)
- Re: Another Election (Jeez, May 03, 2017, 16:37)
- Re: Another Election (thesweetcheat, May 03, 2017, 17:38)
- Re: Another Election (John Rice, May 03, 2017, 19:35)
- Re: Another Election (Littlestone, May 03, 2017, 22:24)
- Re: Diane Abbott (tjj, May 02, 2017, 22:45)
- Re: Another Election (Ethericat, May 03, 2017, 11:25)
- Re: Another Election (Captain Starlet, May 07, 2017, 14:31)
- Re: Another Election (drewbhoy, Apr 20, 2017, 12:35)
- Re: Another Election (Jeez, Apr 19, 2017, 18:44)
- Re: Another Election (tjj, Apr 20, 2017, 20:16)
- Re: Another Election (moss, Apr 21, 2017, 10:20)
- Re: Another Election - link for the Tory voters (riverman, Apr 21, 2017, 20:48)
- Re: Another Election (tjj, Apr 22, 2017, 10:15)
- Re: Another Election. National Holidays (Littlestone, Apr 23, 2017, 18:57)
- Re: Another Election (nigelswift, Apr 28, 2017, 06:06)
- Re: Another Election (thesweetcheat, Apr 28, 2017, 07:51)
- Re: Another Election (tjj, Apr 28, 2017, 09:26)
- Re: Another Election (Sanctuary, Apr 28, 2017, 09:57)
- Re: Another Election (nigelswift, Apr 28, 2017, 10:56)
- Re: Another Election (thesweetcheat, Apr 28, 2017, 19:37)
- Re: Another Election (Littlestone, Apr 28, 2017, 20:32)
- Re: Another Election (Sanctuary, Apr 28, 2017, 21:47)
- Re: Another Election (thesweetcheat, Apr 28, 2017, 23:08)
- Re: Another Election (tjj, Apr 29, 2017, 00:09)
- Re: Another Election (nigelswift, Apr 29, 2017, 07:15)
- PS (nigelswift, Apr 29, 2017, 09:04)
- Re: Hate is a cul-de-sac (moss, Apr 29, 2017, 09:46)
- Re: Hayle is a town in Cornwall (nigelswift, Apr 29, 2017, 10:09)
- Re: Hate is a cul-de-sac (tjj, Apr 29, 2017, 18:16)
- Re: Hate is a cul-de-sac (tjj, Apr 30, 2017, 00:43)
- Re: Hate is a cul-de-sac (thesweetcheat, Apr 30, 2017, 20:38)
- Re: Hate is a cul-de-sac (drewbhoy, May 01, 2017, 06:45)
- Re: Hate is a cul-de-sac (nigelswift, May 01, 2017, 07:39)
- Re: Hate is a cul-de-sac (moss, May 01, 2017, 10:34)
- Re: Hate is a cul-de-sac (tjj, May 01, 2017, 10:42)
- Re: Another Election (Littlestone, May 01, 2017, 11:16)
- Re: Hate is a cul-de-sac (Jeez, May 01, 2017, 17:33)
- Re: Another Election (Ethericat, Apr 28, 2017, 10:30)
- Re: Another Election (thesweetcheat, Apr 29, 2017, 18:35)
- Strong, stable and delusional? (nigelswift, May 01, 2017, 15:02)
- Re: Another Election (Littlestone, May 04, 2017, 12:24)
- Re: Another Election (Sanctuary, May 05, 2017, 11:23)
- Re: Another Election (Jeez, May 05, 2017, 14:36)
- UKIP has taken over its host (thesweetcheat, May 07, 2017, 09:56)
- Re: Another Election (thesweetcheat, May 07, 2017, 12:21)
- Hunting Act (thesweetcheat, May 08, 2017, 22:03)
- Re: Another Election (Jeez, May 10, 2017, 19:25)
- something by Noam Chomsky (Rhiannon, May 11, 2017, 10:07)
- Craig Murray - Journalists as State Functionaries (riverman, May 12, 2017, 06:43)
- Brian May, legend. (nigelswift, May 16, 2017, 11:41)
- Manifesto (thesweetcheat, May 18, 2017, 09:11)
- Re: Another Election (nigelswift, May 19, 2017, 07:57)
- Kill them! (nigelswift, May 20, 2017, 14:58)
- Massive U Turn (nigelswift, May 22, 2017, 12:07)
|
|