thesweetcheat wrote: Mustard wrote: thesweetcheat wrote: The main reason there's no vast investment in the rail network isn't because there is no demand, actually there is a soaring demand from commuters to do just that.
That's a very different issue though. That's demand from people who are already commuters on existing transport corridors. That's not the same thing as demand for new public transport routes.
The demand is as much from business as it is from commuters, because they want to be able to transport their goods more efficiently using rail not road.
And commuter demand includes re-opening closed lines and especially re-opening stations. By way of an example, a number of stations have been opened or re-opened in South Glamorgan, using an existing line but adding greatly to its potential. In effect, it has created a new rail route, while using a line that was already there.
If you think about, there are very few parts of England and Wales (Scotland to a slightly lesser extent) that did not have rail coverage at the height of the 1920s usage, or similarly extensive bus coverage from the 1930s - 1960s. So any "new" public transport route is likely to simply be a permutation of an "old" one anyway (the white elephant of HS2 being an exception, obviously).
Rail freight is a whole different issue. I think there's a very strong case for moving a lot of freight onto the railways.
Yes, I agree there are instances where there is commuter demand for improved links. But that will only ever serve a very specific transport corridor, and it will simply not be a viable option for anyone outside easy access to that transport corridor. Public transport between major urban hubs doesn't need to be a problem, because it has the potential to be more attractive than the car (again, assuming that homes and workplaces are accessible easily from either end).
Not sure what you're getting at with the new vs old routes thing?
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