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Might be contentious, but I am relieved that finally, Public Sector workers are going to be getting a feel for what many private sector employees have been enduring for a number of years - pay freezes, closure of final salary pension plans, reduced pension contributions..etc etc..

"relieved"

Yeah, what a relief... more people getting screwed and learning to accept it.

The nerve of those little people for expecting a decent wage and a pension.

The more you post the stronger my opinion of you; you're just a bit thick aren't you?

I'm going to a meeting with some poorly paid part time teaching assistants who are having their hours reduced tomorrow. I'll pass on your regards. Tosser.

Ah yes - nothing like being an embittered, contrary, jealous, vengeful old man now is there?

...except that you may admittedly not be old, seeing as Tory voters tend to have these traits hard-wired into their genes from birth.

Why are you 'relieved'?

Sure there is loads of waste in the public (and private) sector, and I have first hand experience of the former.

However there's nothing fair or even practical about addressing that by cutting the wages/hours of those at the 'bottom end' of the pay scale (frontline usually), now is there?

Usually, 'overmanagement' etc is the cause.

And just because you don't work in the public sector doesn't mean you don't depend on it. You know you do.

I mean they're even speaking about less money for 'the police'.

Surely that's not a good thing?

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Not an hour after the budget the other day I got an email from my local government part time job saying 'ooh if anyone wants voluntary redundancy do say'. And then I get to work on saturday and there's six of us trying to run a county library because everyone's hours have been cut so much. And THEN I find out that they're actually hiring another manager, they've created yet another management job. That'll be full time mind and paying good money. But who gets all the cuts and the crap?? That's right, it's the part time workers on the shop floor who get rubbish wages in the first place. Oh you've got to laugh. So that's who's getting your 'reality check' - not the managers desperate to cling onto their jobs. So you should think of who it's actually affecting before you start shouting. I'd be the last to deny there's wastefulness in the public sector, but it's only because of all the ludicrous layers of hierarchy - that's who you should be aiming your protestations at, but no you'll be Blaming the Unions and all that other tory waffle.

50 redundancies from my employer. Phew, what a relief.

geoffrey_prime wrote:
Might be contentious, but I am relieved that finally, Public Sector workers are going to be getting a feel for what many private sector employees have been enduring for a number of years - pay freezes, closure of final salary pension plans, reduced pension contributions..etc etc..
I find your use of the word 'relieved' to be either deliberately provocative, wilfully ignorant or just... silly. It essentially displays a "haha they're getting fucked too" attitude which seems a bit shit when you consider how poorly many of the frontline public servants are paid. Tell you what Geoffrey, next time you're in casualty and a nurse is on the arse end of a lengthy shift trying to treat you, why don't you tell her how 'relieved' you are that she/he is getting a dose of what they apparently seem to deserve?

More Homelessness as a result, an undeniable fact, and the Homeless people who I work with, a proportionate 70% genuine need claimants re. disabilty as a vital necessity ( it's a very 'complex area' which will escape the PRIVATE COMPANIES, who, profit and are thus target funded, who are going to asses Mental/Physical Health Needs. I don't need to swear ).
As for the propsed DLA BLANKET testing in 2013, regardless of age and infirmity, be it physical or mental health, this is utterly morally shameful and abhorrent. Inexcusable and wrong. The vulnerable should never be 'IN IT' with the more fortunate memebers of society, on whatever level that may be. I say this because I have worked extensivlet in this sector in the past, and I still do on a part time basis.

Not just public sector workers. This voluntary sector worker lost his job in April due to 20% Govt funding cuts, which meant my contract was not renewed. And as it's been said, more pain will be on the way for the private sector, too. But hey, we're all in this together (tho' I suspect some of us are destined to be 'in it' more than others)...

Here in the US there are now very few long term jobs. Most people are at best skipping from one temporary employment to another. Individual states and cities are laying off workers fast, apparently due to their falling tax revenues. Against all odds Obama is trying to build up the unemployment benefits, welfare and federal jobs. Sadly as ever historically, most of America rejects this as big government meddling.

All the best. We're with you for now sir. Do us proud!


What? Everyone else has taken this off topic and I bet Geoffers is preening about it.

As a public sector worker, since 1984, who is employed paid for 37.5 hours a week but on average over the past 15 years has worked, 60 hours without overtime and spends 4-5 hours a day to get to work, and prior to that, can i please thank you for your comment as over the years I and many of my colleagues are obviously overpaid tossers

geoffrey_prime wrote:
Might be contentious, but I am relieved that finally, Public Sector workers are going to be getting a feel for what many private sector employees have been enduring for a number of years - pay freezes, closure of final salary pension plans, reduced pension contributions..etc etc..
geoffrey_prime

Let me try and put you straight about us public sector workers. I’m a Vocational Trainer and Assessor at a Further Education College. I love my job.

However my salary whilst adequate for me to live comfortably is not huge. I was making more 15 years ago in the oil industry.

I and many of my colleagues work very hard to give our students a good experience. I am contracted to work 37.5 hours per week, but when adding the work I do at home both for my students and for my Continuous Professional Development I can often work 60 hours plus a week. No overtime pay.

In the 10 years I have been in the job our annual pay rises have been between 1% & 2%. Our union reps, and most of the staff, have been very responsible with regard to pay rises. We generally prefer to avoid the possibility of job losses and accept a small pay rise.

You obviously don’t understand the concept of divide and conquer.