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I have read the stuff about Gerald Hawkins and I have the following comments:

1. Throughout the text he refers to "hoaxers", not to Earth energies or aliens.

2. A knowledge of his theorems is not a pre-requisite for creating such crop circles. Many doodlers produce similar patterns with absolutely no idea that there is any maths involved. With the apparatus used by hoaxers, they are easy to produce.

3. The theorems are not dependent on crop circles. Their appearance as crops circles merely stimulated Hawkins to examine the geometry from a mathematical perspective.

4. I was already aware of his Theorem III. This is fairly well known amongst mathematicians.

5. I'm very surprised (amazed, in fact) to hear that these properties of polygons and circles have not previously been investigated. If that's true, then I congratulate Mr Hawkins on his originality.

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Posted by Steve Gray
24th November 2003ce
14:57

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Re: Photography Competition (BlueGloves)

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Photography Competition

(nigelswift, Nov 22, 2003, 08:41)

Forgot to Say... (nigelswift, Nov 22, 2003, 08:59)
- Re: Forgot to Say... (Cursuswalker, Nov 23, 2003, 14:20)
Specifications? (Moth, Nov 22, 2003, 09:12)
- Re: Specifications? (nigelswift, Nov 22, 2003, 10:03)
  - Re: Specifications? (Moth, Nov 22, 2003, 10:48)
Re: Photography Competition (Pete G, Nov 22, 2003, 14:36)
- Re: Photography Competition (Pete G, Nov 22, 2003, 14:43)
  - oops (Pete G, Nov 22, 2003, 14:50)
    - Peachy (nigelswift, Nov 22, 2003, 16:42)
      - Re: Peachy (Pete G, Nov 22, 2003, 17:10)
      - Not to be mist!!! (Moth, Nov 22, 2003, 21:55)
Re: Photography Competition (Steve Gray, Nov 23, 2003, 11:12)
- Re: Photography Competition (The Sizewell Bee, Nov 23, 2003, 13:00)
  - Re: Photography Competition (Pete G, Nov 23, 2003, 14:28)
    - Re: Photography Competition (nigelswift, Nov 23, 2003, 15:59)
      - Re: Photography Competition (BlueGloves, Nov 23, 2003, 22:01)
        Re: Photography Competition (Pete G, Nov 23, 2003, 22:50)
        Re: Photography Competition (Hob, Nov 23, 2003, 23:16)
        Re: Photography Competition (BlueGloves, Nov 24, 2003, 07:20)
        Re: Photography Competition (Steve Gray, Nov 24, 2003, 08:54)
        Re: Photography Competition (Pete G, Nov 24, 2003, 10:06)
        Re: Photography Competition (BlueGloves, Nov 24, 2003, 12:19)
        Re: Photography Competition (nigelswift, Nov 24, 2003, 13:02)
        Re: Photography Competition (Steve Gray, Nov 24, 2003, 14:37)
        Re: Photography Competition (Pete G, Nov 24, 2003, 13:44)
        Re: Photography Competition (BlueGloves, Nov 24, 2003, 14:58)
        Re: Photography Competition (nickbrand, Nov 24, 2003, 15:35)
        Re: Photography Competition (Pete G, Nov 24, 2003, 15:43)
        Re: Photography Competition (nickbrand, Nov 24, 2003, 15:45)
        Re: Photography Competition (Moth, Nov 24, 2003, 15:53)
        Re: Photography Competition (BlueGloves, Nov 24, 2003, 16:17)
        Re: Photography Competition (BlueGloves, Nov 24, 2003, 20:51)
        Re: Photography Competition (Pete G, Nov 24, 2003, 21:04)
        Re: Photography Competition (BlueGloves, Nov 24, 2003, 22:03)
        Crop circle heat patterns (Steve Gray, Nov 24, 2003, 22:36)
        Re: Crop circle heat patterns (BlueGloves, Nov 25, 2003, 08:29)
        Re: Crop circle heat patterns (Steve Gray, Nov 25, 2003, 14:55)
        Re: Crop circle heat patterns (Pete G, Nov 25, 2003, 22:56)
        Re: Crop circle heat patterns (BlueGloves, Nov 25, 2003, 23:08)
        BUT (Pete G, Nov 25, 2003, 23:28)
        Also (Pete G, Nov 25, 2003, 23:41)
        Re: Also (The Sizewell Bee, Nov 26, 2003, 06:34)
        Re: Also (Pete G, Nov 26, 2003, 12:27)
        Re: Also (gm, Nov 26, 2003, 12:35)
        Don't worry about it, Pete (BlueGloves, Nov 26, 2003, 08:12)
        just to put my oar in (Rhiannon, Nov 26, 2003, 09:32)
        Re: just to put my oar in (BlueGloves, Nov 26, 2003, 20:54)
        Re: Don't worry about it, Pete (Pete G, Nov 26, 2003, 12:28)
        Re: Don't worry about it, Pete (Steve Gray, Nov 26, 2003, 12:51)
        Re: Don't worry about it, Pete (Pete G, Nov 26, 2003, 12:59)
        Re: Don't worry about it, Pete (AtomicMutton, Nov 28, 2003, 09:33)
        Re: Don't worry about it, Pete (Steve Gray, Nov 28, 2003, 10:25)
        Re: Don't worry about it, Pete (nigelswift, Nov 28, 2003, 11:06)
        Re: Don't worry about it, Pete (Steve Gray, Nov 28, 2003, 11:40)
        Pits (Pete G, Nov 28, 2003, 12:09)
        Re: Don't worry about it, Pete (AtomicMutton, Nov 28, 2003, 12:34)
        Re: Don't worry about it, Pete (nigelswift, Nov 28, 2003, 12:44)
        Re: Crop circle heat patterns (nigelswift, Nov 26, 2003, 07:57)
        Re: Crop circle heat patterns (Steve Gray, Nov 26, 2003, 12:13)
        Not a bad explanation (BlueGloves, Nov 26, 2003, 20:19)
        Lifters (Steve Gray, Nov 27, 2003, 09:09)
        Lifters (sorry Gandalf) (BlueGloves, Nov 28, 2003, 15:02)
        Re: Lifters (sorry Gandalf) (nigelswift, Nov 28, 2003, 15:30)
        Re: Lifters (sorry Gandalf) (Pete G, Nov 28, 2003, 15:34)
        Re: Lifters (Gandalf's ok) (BlueGloves, Nov 28, 2003, 17:42)
        Re: Lifters (sorry Gandalf) (Steve Gray, Nov 28, 2003, 17:58)
        Re: Lifters (BlueGloves, Nov 28, 2003, 19:18)
        Re: Lifters (Steve Gray, Nov 29, 2003, 14:13)
        The all knowing gun toting executioner (suave harv, Nov 29, 2003, 15:23)
        answer (Pete G, Nov 29, 2003, 15:31)
        Re: Photography Competition (nigelswift, Nov 24, 2003, 22:40)
        Re: Photography Competition (Steve Gray, Nov 24, 2003, 22:41)
        Re: Photography Competition (Pete G, Nov 24, 2003, 22:42)
        Re: Photography Competition (Steve Gray, Nov 24, 2003, 14:57)
      - Re: Photography Competition (Pete G, Nov 24, 2003, 00:12)
Re: Photography Competition (Kozmik_Ken, Nov 24, 2003, 09:45)
- Re: Photography Competition (nigelswift, Nov 24, 2003, 14:36)
Re: Photography Competition (Moth, Nov 24, 2003, 10:02)
HA Photography Comp pics (Kozmik_Ken, Nov 25, 2003, 12:26)
- Re: HA Photography Comp pics (The Sizewell Bee, Nov 25, 2003, 13:06)
- Re: HA Photography Comp pics (jimit, Nov 25, 2003, 13:33)
- Re: HA Photography Comp pics (Kozmik_Ken, Nov 25, 2003, 13:41)
- New pic (Pete G, Nov 25, 2003, 15:54)
  - Re: New pic (Kozmik_Ken, Nov 25, 2003, 15:59)
    - Re: New pic (Kozmik_Ken, Nov 25, 2003, 16:04)
  - Re: New pic (nigelswift, Nov 25, 2003, 16:19)
    - Re: New pic (Pete G, Nov 25, 2003, 16:24)
      - Re: New pic (nigelswift, Nov 25, 2003, 16:33)
        Re: New pic (Pete G, Nov 25, 2003, 16:35)
        Re: New pic (Moth, Nov 25, 2003, 16:40)
      - Re: New pic (Moth, Nov 25, 2003, 16:34)
        Re: New pic (nigelswift, Nov 25, 2003, 16:36)
        Re: New pic (Pete G, Nov 25, 2003, 22:36)
        Re: New pic (Steve Gray, Nov 26, 2003, 12:26)
        Re: New pic (nigelswift, Nov 26, 2003, 12:40)
        Re: New pic (Steve Gray, Nov 26, 2003, 12:55)
- Re: HA Photography Comp pics (Nat, Nov 25, 2003, 15:57)
  - Re: HA Photography Comp pics (Moth, Nov 25, 2003, 16:05)
    - Re: HA Photography Comp pics (Kozmik_Ken, Nov 25, 2003, 16:14)
      - Re: HA Photography Comp pics (nigelswift, Nov 25, 2003, 17:11)
        Last call for any more entries? (Pete G, Nov 25, 2003, 17:15)
- Re: HA Photography Comp pics (Jane, Nov 26, 2003, 11:18)
  - Oi!!! (Moth, Nov 26, 2003, 11:30)
    - Re: Oi!!! (nigelswift, Nov 26, 2003, 11:43)
    - Re: Oi!!! (Jane, Nov 26, 2003, 12:55)
      - Re: Oi!!! (nigelswift, Nov 26, 2003, 12:59)
        Re: Oi!!! (Moth, Nov 26, 2003, 13:40)
        Re: Oi!!! (nigelswift, Nov 26, 2003, 13:50)
        Editor Swifty (Moth, Nov 26, 2003, 19:48)
re consolidation and top of Silbury (moss, Nov 29, 2003, 18:29)
- Re: re consolidation and top of Silbury (moss, Nov 29, 2003, 19:03)
December pic (Pete G, Dec 14, 2003, 17:35)
- Re: December pic (nigelswift, Dec 14, 2003, 18:09)
  - Nigel! (Moth, Dec 14, 2003, 18:19)
- Re: December pic (morfe, Dec 14, 2003, 18:15)

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